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To: CobaltBlue
I see from your profile that you are married, and that your wife is expecting your second child, so naturally you would find it offensive for me to bring up sex with a pregnant woman.

I don't find this offensive. I find it idiotic and completely without logic. What I find offensive is when you call the doctrines of the Church "sophistry" while claiming to be a Catholic. You will be happy to know that my wife has since delivered a beautiful baby girl.

Nevertheless, it is a fact beyond peradventure that a pregnant woman cannot conceive whilst pregnant.

Still can't seem to get beyond the "willful intent" issue, can you?

If the obligation is to have sex only when procreation is possible, then you are not fulfilling that duty.

But that's not what the Church teaches, now is it? A little intellectual honesty please!

No other church prohibits birth control, not even the Jews and the Orthodox.

Those sects aren't any more correct now than the last time you said this 100-odd posts ago.

I predict that the prohibition against contraception will be withdrawn in the future.

Somehow, I suspect you're lacking in the prophesy department.

I will concede that you have a superior understanding of prostitutes. I have no idea how sex with prostitutes differs from sex with any other woman.

I'm not sure how to read this except as a cheap shot, though awkwardly taken. Not terribly Christian of you.
229 posted on 10/20/2003 5:56:19 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Antoninus
Congratulations on your second child!

I gather that you are still a young man. When you are my age (51) perhaps we'll revisit this conversation.

Because you are keeping up with my statements, no doubt you recall that I am taking cancer chemotherapy medication (methotrexate) which causes serious birth defects, weekly, for rheumatoid arthritis. So, I will glady meet my maker, confident that He did not wish for me to conceive a deformed child if it were at all possible to avoid.

Similarly, I am sure that He would not want Africans to contract HIV if they could avoid it.

Your opinion differs, and there's an end to it.
230 posted on 10/20/2003 6:22:45 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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