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To: Antoninus
Personally, I feel that to use "birth control" is to treat one's wife like a harlot in that it attempts to negate the procreative aspect of intercourse. It becomes merely an act of mutual gratification which is, of course, very little different than similar acts performed in brothels and by homosexuals.

*Snort.*

OK, you did a good job of talking the talk. But the truth is that the Catholic Church explicitly allows you to negate the procreative aspects of intercourse by using NFP (natural family planning, rhythm method, Billings method).

The Catholic Church won't prohibit you from having sex with your wife while she's menstruating, although this is a violation of Mosaic law.

You can have sex with your wife despite the fact that she had a hysterectomy due to cancer. You can have sex with your wife despite the fact that you are sterile due to having mumps. You can have sex with your wife when she's pregnant. You can have sex with your wife despite the fact that she is breast-feeding and therefore not ovulating. You can have sex with your wife despite the fact that she's gone through menopause and therefore is no longer ovulating.

In other words, according to the Catholic Church, you can have sex with your wife even though it's impossible for her to conceive, thus, zero possibility of procreation.

This is sophistry.

If you were honestly, truly, only willing to have sex with your wife when the possibility of procreation was there, you'd abstain during non-fertile times. If you don't abstain when she's not fertile, your little speech about harlots and brothels is a lie. Period, end of message.

222 posted on 10/18/2003 2:38:06 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
If you were honestly, truly, only willing to have sex with your wife when the possibility of procreation was there, you'd abstain during non-fertile times.

That you can't see the difference between intercourse while pregnant and intercourse using a condom or the pill says more about you than about the Church teaching you reject. All the other situations you mention do not involve a willful desire by the participants to defeat the procreative aspects of intercourse.

If you don't abstain when she's not fertile, your little speech about harlots and brothels is a lie. Period, end of message.

Nope. It holds up perfectly. Prostitutes and their customers attempt to willfully eliminate the procreative aspects of intercourse. What is one to say about married couples that emmulate such behavior?
225 posted on 10/19/2003 7:39:33 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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