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1 posted on 10/14/2003 5:59:09 PM PDT by Jean S
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And he didn't murder his way to the top, like the clintons. He hasn't even pointed out the problems with Vince Foster's death explanation. Its time he did now.
2 posted on 10/14/2003 6:06:11 PM PDT by Samizdat
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3 posted on 10/14/2003 6:07:11 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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The actor Robert Downey Jr. messed up repeatedly — was caught several times with crack, heroin, other drugs, and, occasionally, a concealed gun — before being sent to jail. Once there, Downey won early release.

And the left considered him a hero and a man of great courage. He got standing ovations for his drug use!

4 posted on 10/14/2003 6:09:28 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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Franken calling Rush a dishonest demagogue? Talk about the pot callling the kettle black...
5 posted on 10/14/2003 6:10:10 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Shameless advertising time: http://www.geocities.com/conservative_patriot1776/index.html)
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6 posted on 10/14/2003 6:33:14 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names" - John F. Kennedy)
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RUSH TO LEFTIES AND COMMIES LIBS; "HASTA LA VISTA BABY, I'LL BE BACK."
8 posted on 10/14/2003 7:01:33 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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I just read a gloater with a confused definition of conservative. Quoted from http://www.oregonlive.com/commentary/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/1065873787272280.xml

"If not destroyed, Limbaugh's life certainly seems to have been harmed, but not by the drugs. He is an otherwise upstanding citizen whose reputation is being ruined by the laws against drugs rather than the drugs themselves. At the moment, he looks like the poster boy for the legalization movement. Yet Limbaugh has specifically rejected that movement. Why? I suspect the explanation arises out of the central flaw in the thinking of all of these talk-show conservatives, their hatred for what they term 'elites' . . . Conservatism is by its very nature an elitist philosophy. A thinking conservative would be bothered not in the least by the idea that it's fine for a cultured and civilized citizen to indulge in an activity that might cause chaos when indulged in by his inferiors. If in fact these charges against Limbaugh are borne out, here's what I'd like to hear him say: 'Yeah, I do drugs. Mountains of them. But I don't bother anyone. I'm rich. I don't have to stick up 7-Elevens to pay for my habit. So it's none of the government's business.' " -- Paul Mulshine, Newhouse News Service

Can I do that, or does it need to be posted as a separate article?
Anyway, Mulshine is saying that Rush is a member of the class he (Rush) claims to detest and that this detestation is the central flaw in his thinking. Would Mulshine really gain any respect for Rush if Rush publicly embraced hypocrisy that way? What is he, a Nietzschean?

As a (now clean and sober) libertarian I understand being morally against drugs and their negative consequences, but I think the WOD is being done wrongly. I think people who are acting crazy, high or drunk AND endangering others (both) should be restrained until they sober up. If they actually harm someone, they should be prosecuted (emotional harm doesn't count as a reason to lock someone up; to reject them, yes). I don't believe this opinion is rare among conservatives. And nobody's saying you can't use evidence relating to drug abuse to find violent or property criminals.

But this "Conservatism is by its very nature an elitist philosophy"... It's like calling us Loyalists or something. That kind of conservative went out with the American Whig Party (whom I don't admire at all, I'm a Locke, Shaftesbury, Trenchard and Gordon guy).
It's true that there's a contradiction for a freedom fighter to support this war to keep people from getting high on some chemicals but not others. The ad hominem argument remains a fallacy; just because a guy is inconsistent or wrong in one area, does not prove he's wrong in others.
9 posted on 10/14/2003 7:06:14 PM PDT by Whig Brain (Philistine Shopkeepers for M'ing YOB (not intended personally to anybody).)
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He has not claimed novel and nonexistent legal privileges.

Yep. Meantime, some on FR have stupidly implied Rush is guilty because he hired a lawyer.

10 posted on 10/14/2003 7:11:45 PM PDT by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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Prayers for Rush
12 posted on 10/14/2003 11:47:51 PM PDT by Dajjal
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