How the Los Angeles Times *Really* Decided to Publish Accounts of Women Who Said They Were Groped

JillStewart.net ^ | October 14, 2003 | Jill Stewart

[Cicero]

Very enlightening piece, worth the lengthy read. I hope this stuff is getting out so people in California will undertand just how loony the editor the the LA Times is.These people are so far around the bend with their hatreds they are practically foaming at the mouth.

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[publius1]

Wow. I knew it was bad, but this is psychosis-territory.

[princess leah]

Unfortunately, most editors are far left liberals and thus they hold the American public by their own biased standard and push their thinking onto us insteading of DOING their jobs which is EDITING...It's so far out of control all over the main papers in the big cities that it's not worth buying any of those DNC talking points anymore!

[aristeides]

A leak about the story's contents from the Times to the Democrats might explain why Democratic operatives seemed able to mount an incredibly fast and coordinated attack on Schwarzenegger the moment the story appeared.

Not the only such leak in the campaign. Bill Clinton, the day before the Ninth Circuit three-judge panel issued its ruling, gave every indication of being aware how it would rule, and Gray Davis immediately pounced on the ruling when it was released the next day. A Novak column a few days later said left-wing lawyers were well aware of how the panel would rule in advance.

That leak violated judicial ethics.

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[aristeides]

Think they ran first with the steroid story, and delayed coming out with the groping story, because at the time of the steroid story Gray Davis was still using Bill Clinton as a campaigner?

[eggman]

...These are not bad people. An unthinking mass response, completely unthinking, is the only explanation I have."

They drank the Kool-Aid. And Helen Thomas wonders why the President doesn't get his information from the newspapers.

[eggman]

That leak violated judicial ethics.

You incorrectly assume that ethics rules apply to liberals.

[narby]

No one has mentioned the comment by Arianna during the debate that "everyone knows how you treat women".

This was the line where Arnold responded that he had just the right part Arianna could take in the next Terminator movie.

Obviously, Arianna also knew what was coming, well before dirty Thursday.

[JoeSixPack1]

Corrupt presstitutes haven't won an elections since hitlery's. But they keep trying.

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[Auntie Mame]

No one has mentioned the comment by Arianna during the debate that "everyone knows how you treat women".

Very good catch. You're right....

Obviously, Arianna also knew what was coming, well before dirty Thursday.

[the lone wolf]

The problem with the LA Times and other media outlets is not that they are biased towards the Left, or against Arnold. This is still America, the First Amendment is still valid, and they have the right to publish anything they want to publish (short of slander or libel).

The real problem is that, after they publish a Leftist hit piece, they come back and say that they are merely unbiased obsevers, just reporters of information.

They must think that we just fell of the back of the turnip truck or something.

[GATOR NAVY]

I made a similar point on another thread on the topic of media bias. Bias in itself is not unethical, but refusing to admit it exist is.

[Fledermaus]

Yep, she was in the loop.

What makes me laugh outloud is the context of Arnold's so-called "groping". By all standards, he comes off as a rich frat guy getting drunk and groping drunk women or driving along the strip playing loud music and propositioning every woman, crudely, they see.

I don't know what's worse. Men coming up to women (as I saw so many times in college) and making remarks like, "oh baby, you are going to be sucking my Richard tonight" while the women laugh or the fact it worked and they went home with those women.

Then, I throw in the Hollywood factor. Hollywood is one giant film orgy the way the tabloids write. Every leading actress is doing the leading actor while cheating on their leading actor/actress spouse. Meg Ryan is thrown around like a Raggedy Ann doll.

Do any of these women say Arnold forced sex on them? No. Do any of them claim they lost jobs if they said no to him? No.

The 2 out of 15 (first 6, then 15...I still have yet to find the stories of #7-15) that did go on record were an old English has been that was probably just happy Arnold said "Hi" to her while she was slutting on some set for a bit part. I've read she has a worse reputation in England.

I don't even remember who the other one was, since her story was so lame it made me laugh. I've had women grope me worse than her story.

But there was that one woman I believed. The one that looked like she was 80 years old and had about two facelifts a year for a decade. Only because she looked more like Arnold's wife Maria and I thought he might be into that type of woman! ;-)

And isn't Hollywood the casting couch city of sin? Isn't groping and sex games going on all the time? If not, then I'm cancelling my subscriptions to the Enquirer, Star, etc. lol

Then there is the hypocrisy issue the press bandies about. They are, as usual, trying to set up a moral equivalence to give themselves cover for their flip-flops. They say "well, the Republicans attacked Clinton for this and give Arnold a pass" and the Republicans, rightly, point out the Dems and feminist giving Clinton a free pass.

Even Gloria Steinem (sp) came up with the "one grope" rule. And their hypocrisy knows no bounds. First, they ignored their employer/employee rule of power in sexual harrassment when it came to Paula Jones. They ignored the "women don't lie about rape" rule with Juanita Brodderick. They ignored the crude advances by Clinton to Kathleen Willey because she "liked him" as a President and sent nice letters. They ignored the threats made to Elizabeth Gracen that forced her to live overseas.

Real women, with real facts about real laws being broken by Clinton. They didn't hide behind anomity and most were afraid, earlier, to even come forward because they had been so imtimidated by Hillary's bimbo-eruption hit squad.

To compare that to Arnold and the unsubstantiated claims made against him is ridiculous. His "apology" was brilliant. It was, again, like a frat boy just saying, "yeah, we got carried away at that kegger and I apologize to any woman I might have offended while playing nude Twister with them".

And I can imagine Arnold getting out of line once in a while, but he wasn't vicious or hurtful...if you believe all the anonomous stories the LA Times had for years, not 7 weeks. But I then don't believe most of them knowing how many women were probably just throwing themselves at him like a mother and daughter trailer trash team going to a Def Leppard concert and getting to the after party doing that mother/daugh....nevermind.

[BibChr]

In case you missed this really good article. I just got around to reading it.

Interesting, kind of, isn't it? Article attacking the attacks on Schwarzenegger, and in two days not a lot of comment.

I observe, you decide.

Dan

[aculeus]

Bump to the top.

(Andrew Sullivan features this today ... well worth the read.)

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for the ping! Where are all the comments is right? That really is telling!