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To: mrustow; tallhappy; Clemenza
However, the real reason Rita Hayworth wasn’t known as a "Hispanic," was that she wasn’t one. Her father, dancer (and son of a dancer) Eduardo Cansino, immigrated to America from Spain in 1913; Rita was born in Manhattan on October 17, 1918. Until a few years ago, "Hispanic" referred to countries that had been conquered by Spain, and where Spanish was spoken, but not to Spain itself. Hispanic nationalists then decided to eliminate the distinction between conqueror and conquered, as regards Spain, replacing it in the role of conqueror and colonial power -- history be damned -- with the U.S.

There is so much historical revisionism and just plain B.S. here that a lesson is in order.

The word “Hispanic” has only recently been co-opted as the Politically Correct code word for “non-white Spanish speakers” just like the word “immigrant” has been co-opted to mean “illegal alien” and the word “gay” has been co-opted to mean….well, never mind. You get the picture.

“Hispania” was the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula just like “Britannia” was the Roman name for the British Isles.

The 1973 Webster’s Dictionary defines Hispanic as: Adj [Latin “hispanicus” from “Hispania” Iberian peninsula, Spain]: of or relating to the people, speech or culture of Spain, Spain and Portugal or Latin America.”

If anyone has a claim to the name “Hispanic” it is a Spaniard from the Iberian Peninsula and, in Latin America, that is exactly what the term “Hispano” means, something with a direct relationship to Spain. A European Spanish bank doing business in Mexico or elsewhere in the world would call itself “Hispano”. For example: Santander Central Hispano.

In Mexico, individuals who still bears a huge chip on their shoulder that their Indian ancestors were conquered by Spain would go ballistic if you called them “Hispanos” just as Irish Republicans would go ballistic if you called them “British”.

“Hispania”, like “Britannia” has a proud history. Hispania was part of Roman civilization 200 years before the British Isles were ever civilized. Hispania produced the two “Good Emperors” Trajan and Hadrian. Yet, Politically Correct speech has stripped the ancient title of Hispania from Spain.

There is no “Hispanic” race any more than there is a “Britannic” race.

My own family has it’s roots in Galicia and Asturias the ancient Celtic areas of northern Spain by way of Cuba for a few generations. My great-grandfather, my grandfather, my father, myself and my children were all born blond and blue-eyed as were most of their their ancestors since before they ever came in contact with the Romans 2100 years ago. However, so-called “Anglos” now label me “Hispanic” because I was born in Cuba and declare that I am no longer white.

What’s up with that?

If you note, in ”I Love Lucy”, Ricky Ricardo never referred to himself as “Hispanic”. He referred to himself as “Cuban”.

Much confusion would be avoided is so-called “Anglos” adopted the Cuban habit of just plain calling things as they are. For example, Cubans would ethnically and racially classify the following individuals as follows:

Celia Cruz: Cubana Negra (Cuban Black)

Daisy Fuentes: Cubana Blanca (Cuban White)

Jennifer Lopez: Puertoriqueña Mulata (Puerto Rican Mulata)

Edgar Martinez: Puertoriqueña Blanco (Puerto Rican White)

Cruz Bustamante: Mexicano Mestizo (Mexican Mestizo)

Peruvian ex-President Alberto Fujimori: Peruano Japones (Peruvian Japanese)


Gold aureus of Roman Emperor Hadrian honoring his home province of Hispania

114 posted on 10/14/2003 7:10:32 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
There is no “Hispanic” race any more than there is a “Britannic” race.

There is now, and it's all your doing!

Am I about to have fun the next time I have to fill out any form or inquiry- purely for statistical purposes, we are assured, of course!- and am asked of which race I belong! Oh my, yes!

And if they do not like my Britannic response, those filthy racists can just go to hell. If they can make up their own chosen names for such designations, so then can I. Though I'd happily accept Cubano-Blanco as well, having spent part of my early childhood there with my dad, a CalTex refinery engineer....

-archy-/-

117 posted on 10/14/2003 7:34:17 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Polybius
Nice comments.

One thing. Cruz Bustamante is not mestizo I'm pretty sure.

120 posted on 10/14/2003 8:00:51 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Polybius
Then there are hispanics like Martin Sheen, sons Emilio and Charlie, Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead, Linda Ronstadt, Vickie Carr, Rita Moreno, Cristina Aguilera, and a whole lot others.
122 posted on 10/14/2003 8:34:28 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Polybius
Much confusion would be avoided is so-called “Anglos” adopted the Cuban habit of just plain calling things as they are.

But what on earth is an "Anglo" --- why are you singling out the British here?

125 posted on 10/14/2003 8:38:43 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Polybius
Great post! Wish I could've made it myself.

BTW: CUBA LIBRE!

148 posted on 10/15/2003 2:33:14 PM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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