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1 posted on 10/14/2003 6:05:19 AM PDT by Loyalist
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I can see a good case for annexing the Western Canadian provinces. Eastern Canada is a cesspool of socialism and Quebec is unassimilable. The notion of a U.S-Canada merger for the forseeable future, is a pipe dream.
2 posted on 10/14/2003 6:11:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Given what happen with Election 2000, that may be a dubious proposition for 2 reasons.

1) The U.S. House of Representatives gives population based representation. Provinces like Alberta or Manitoba become the new Wyoming. They contribute billions of dollars of resources, they end up having 90% of their land federally owned and they get minimal representation in congress.

2) The larger US states; CA, NY, FL etc... feel like they do not get enough say in selection of the President. They claim that since most of the voters live in their states, they should have enough electors to overpower the smaller, less populated states. Toronto and Quebec, if added to the US in their entirenty, would become large states. Manitoba and BC, probably not. The addition of large, sparsely populated provinces would further shift electoral power to smaller states and away from NY and CA. Thus, large US states would object to absorbing some or all of Canada.
3 posted on 10/14/2003 6:18:23 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Zot me and my screen name gets even dorkier!)
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Each province becomes a state.

I'm willing.

I like Canada.
5 posted on 10/14/2003 6:22:15 AM PDT by xzins
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At one time I thought it would be a good idea for the Canadian provinces to join the US. Now after some consideration, I don't think so.

Out of all of the provinces, only Alberta would be even worth considering for statehood, as the other provinces are much too liberal.

I suppose the Dumb-O-crats would love having Ontario as a state. One more large left-leaning state and there would be a Democrat stranglehold on the presidency.

I would much rather see Canada as a separate country with the Canadian Alliance running the show.

Just my $0.02.
10 posted on 10/14/2003 6:37:51 AM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Step on no pets. Anna: Did Otto peep? Otto: Did Anna?)
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I could see bringing Canada into the USA, except Quebec. We've had quite enough from them already, tabernac!
13 posted on 10/14/2003 6:57:45 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (The Truth Shall Make You Free-p)
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I say we take Alberta, British Columbia, and maybe Manitoba. In return we give Canada- California, Vermont, the cities of Seattle, San Francisco, and Ithaca, NY.

Oh, but we have to change the name of British Columbia to something better.
17 posted on 10/14/2003 7:13:06 AM PDT by retrokitten (Welcome to the real world, hippy!- Homer Simpson)
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Interesting article. As usual, however, the reporters have not done their historical homework.

At the beginning of the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress passed a law offering admission to the Union to any Canadian Province that chose to join. The purpose, of course, was to pry them away from British hands, and keep them from being an untouched base of operations against the Americans. THAT LAW IS STILL ON THE BOOKS.

Therefore, all that is necessary for any Province to become a state is for them to request that with a proposed constitution for their new State, and for Congress to give its approval to that constitution. Well, there IS the little problem of what the other Provinces and the Government of Canada might have to say about that. LOL.

And, as the second poster pointed out, there are certain Canadian Privinces that the United States wouldn't want on a bet. But that question is down the road.

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18 posted on 10/14/2003 7:13:41 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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22 posted on 10/14/2003 7:38:36 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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This article which manages to do some creative leaps and bigger leaps, is for the most part if not stupid at least foolish. If for example Or a continent-wide environmental crisis -- perhaps a water shortage in the U.S. -- would require a continental response. This would well require a continental response . An economic and an environmental response , not a political union . And the U.S. might demand the right to control security at Canada's borders The US has every right to control it's Canadian borders and failing to do that is a US problem , not a Canadian one . That doesn't eliminate co operation between the two countries. It hardly requires an union.

With the Treaty of Union in 1707, the Scots ceased their struggle for political independence

Really. The writers need to review the history of Scotland. Especially the part about the Jacobites and the 'Highland Clearances' . That was a real fun time on the road to Union.

And are we to assume that Mexico is included in this little get together. Does it follow , as the writers say, Now, Canada and the U.S. are moving toward union, and Mexico may join later.

English Canada has her French problem , English US an increasing Spanish problem. Only an idiot would believe the three would politically survive together?

23 posted on 10/14/2003 7:52:08 AM PDT by Snowyman
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Canada can just stay Canada. We don't need them meddling in our affairs and turning us into a morally and intellectually bankrupt in leadership cesspool. Too liberal and it can stay that way.
26 posted on 10/14/2003 8:22:44 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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Fine by me, except for Quebec. And no more Indian reservations, thank you.
29 posted on 10/14/2003 11:59:41 AM PDT by Stingray51
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It's not hard to imagine the U.S. accepting ... Quebec with its hydro power.

I have only one problem with getting Quebec, especially if we get their hydro power: where to send the Quebecois.

30 posted on 10/14/2003 12:46:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Current time travel velocity: 3600 seconds/hour.)
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What drives unification?

Pompous, arrogant ambition of the political class everseeking greater control over the masses?

32 posted on 10/14/2003 12:51:23 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Canada already has one dysfunctional marriage. Last thing we need is another.
40 posted on 10/14/2003 2:54:03 PM PDT by kanawa
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