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Research surprise: Low-carb dieters eat more calories and still lose weight (ATkins vindicated)
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| Oct. 13, 2003
| DANIEL Q. HANEY
Posted on 10/13/2003 1:58:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Dr. Samuel Klein of Washington University, the obesity organization's president, called the results "hard to believe" and said perhaps the people eating more calories also got more exercise or they were less apt to cheat because they were less hungry. But isn't that the whole point of this diet? Why would one want a diet that one is more prone to cheat on because one is hungry all the time?
I think the exercise factor is often overlooked in these studies. On a normal-carb diet, one has much more energy and that is often used for exercise. I did a 12-mile walk on Saturday morning and I had enough energy left over to spend the rest of the afternoon doing yard work and chopping wood. Forget about having the energy to do that if I was on a typical low-fat diet, eating cottage cheese and celery sticks.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:28:22 PM PDT
by
SamAdams76
(208.0 (-92.0) Homestretch to 200)
To: larryjohnson
Hear hear! 21 people? There's a definitive study.
To: Grim
Where did you find the truffles?? The candy with the malt sugar gives me problems I would not like to discuss (but my daughters call them foofies).
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:45:29 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
( FReeper Jonathansmommie 's baby, Boy or Girl? The ultrasound could not tell. booooo!)
To: FairOpinion
Reas later.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:52:23 PM PDT
by
dix
To: netmilsmom
The xylitol won't help you much there. Go to the
Atkins web site for all kinds of dessert recipes that use Splenda (sucralose). Splenda has little effect on the digestive tract (at least for me) unlike the sugar alcohols. I can't eat any of that maltitol or lactitol candy, either.
To: FairOpinion
Now, a small but carefully controlled study offers a strong hint that maybe Atkins was right: People on low-carb, high-fat diets actually can eat more
Eat more calories not more by weight
fats have almost 2x the calories per gram than carbs or protein
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:21:58 PM PDT
by
uncbob
( building tomorrow)
To: Mr. Jeeves
Xylitol is the best for bulk sweeteners. Xylitol chewing gum and mints keep teeth squeeky clean and prevent tooth decay.
Give your guts two weeks to get used to increasing amounts of xylitol.
My guts have never been able to adapt to very much maltitol or lactitol, but I can tolerate xylitol just fine.
It bothers me a little that sucralose is chlorinated sugar.
To: FairOpinion
my husband was just diagnosed with sugar diebeties. When I contacted the hospital abiut their education class I mentioned something about it being so confusing with the "exchanges", etc. and the nurse said they don't do that as much anymore. They count carbs. When she said this I said if that's the case I'd just put him on the Akins diet. Her response was that I could do that but they recommended something he could stay on for life. (You can stay on Adkins) What surprised me is she didn't mention any negatives with the diet except she figured he'd give up.
To: Lil'freeper; JenB; HairOfTheDog
Pinging my fellow low-carbers.
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posted on
10/13/2003 5:27:06 PM PDT
by
ecurbh
(Waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight, there my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter)
To: larryjohnson
extra loss was muscleNo it isn't. Several studies that compare low-carb with low-fat diets report that the low-carb dieters lose more weight from fat than low-fat dieters. Here are a couple (but IIRC there are more):
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posted on
10/13/2003 5:30:04 PM PDT
by
jennyp
(http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
To: ecurbh
Thanks! More research vindicating that which I know from experience is true.
I've felt so much better in the six+ months I've been on Atkins. Even if I hadn't lost a ton of weight I'd be happy.
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posted on
10/13/2003 5:31:13 PM PDT
by
JenB
To: larryjohnson
extra loss was muscle I wondered the same thing, since the article addresses only total weight loss, not what was lost. Kinda meaningless without that little data point.
This cought my attention, too: the calorie allotment was "1,800 for men"! Man, that sounds like some kind of starvation diet, unless these folks were real couch potatoes.
To: JenB
Yup, same here. My shrinking waistline (about 4" so far) is a testament to the fact that Dr. Atkins was right. I've been slipping a bit the past few weeks though, and may need to go back on induction a bit after the move.
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posted on
10/13/2003 5:35:12 PM PDT
by
ecurbh
(Waiting on the doorstep for the cold starlight, there my pretty lady is, River-woman's daughter)
To: ecurbh
may need to go back on induction a bit after the move I can sympathize. (I'm taking a break from moving right now). We've been hitting convenience food too heavily lately here- due to the move- and I feel awful. Can't wait to get back on track.
To: NotQuiteCricket
The first time I've ever seen the laws of thermodynamics applied to dieting!
I've been 10-15 lbs overweight for the last year or so. About 3 weeks ago I decided to experiment with a no-carb (or nearly so) diet. Dropped five pounds in the first five days. Since then I've eaten like a pig and, even with a little cheating (the occassional light beer), I've dropped eleven pounds.
Atkins works and is much easier to maintain as you never have to go hungry. "Professionals" who say it doesn't are simply charlatans.
To: Lil'freeper
I can sympathize. (I'm taking a break from moving right now). We've been hitting convenience food too heavily lately here- due to the move- and I feel awful. Can't wait to get back on track.Quick tip: When eating a hamburger, rip the bun off as you go along. You'll end up eating only 1/2 the bun.
Quick tip #2: Peanuts. :-)
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posted on
10/13/2003 8:25:24 PM PDT
by
jennyp
(http://lowcarbshopper.bestmessageboard.com)
To: nutmeg
read later bump
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posted on
10/13/2003 9:15:35 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
(Rush Limbaugh: The Voice of Sanity during 8 years of the Clinton Reign of Terror)
To: Lil'freeper
beef jerkey
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posted on
10/13/2003 9:48:11 PM PDT
by
NotQuiteCricket
(http://www.strangesolutions.com)
To: FairOpinion
Hard for them to swallow, huh?
To: All
The Atkins Diet will prevail!
Another viewpoint: Doctors' group urges Atkins diet ban*** "Research has clearly shown that high-protein, meat-heavy diets increase the risk of osteoporosis and kidney disorders and that low-fat vegetarian diets help prevent heart disease, diabetes, some cancers, and other health problems."***
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