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'Dutch women are the whores' (religion of peace alert)
De Volkskrant ^ | October 12 2003 | Janny Groen Lidy Nicolasen

Posted on 10/13/2003 10:27:16 AM PDT by knighthawk

ZEIST - Moroccan schoolchildren from Zeist molested seven adult females. One of the reasons is the lack of sexual education in a complex society. 'But one also gets the feeling that there is no respect'.

'Moroccan youths have a distorted view of women'

Just around the corner in the 'Laan van Vollenhove' in Zeist the junk is piled up high next to a notorious flat. The lane also has countless of dark spots, where seven woman were molested, insulted and humiliated by Moroccan schoolchildren. Amongst them two brothers of 8 and 11 years. Their father denied the accusations fiercly.

Jan Hendriks, psychologe, pedagoge and specialized in young perpetrators, names as the most important reason for the molestations the distorted view of women that these young moral offenders have. Especialy with molesters of immigrant.

Hendriks is chief treatment of youths at the tbs-policlinic (tbs means court ordered psychiatric treatment) De Waag and he investigated young grouprapists. Hendriks: "In Islamic society woman mostly remain in the background, are second-class and it's not accepted they show their bodies."

Excessive nudity and the free handeling of sexuality lead to distorted manners. Hendriks names it the Madonna-whore-complex.

"Dutch females are the whore. They are more at ease to show their body. Moroccan youths do not know about the subtile etiquette that are present in Dutch society."

On a regular basis it goes wrong on the streets, in swimmingpools and on the beach. In June a group of 15 Moroccan youths molested a 22 year old woman from Haarlem in the train from Zandvoort.

Those boys don't get sexual education at home, says Hendriks. That was also the case in Dutch families in the past, but then society was not as complex as it is today. And also those boys get, many times unconscious, the negative view of women that also is notible in their family. Hendriks: "Moroccan fathers don't say explicitly: Dutch girls are sluts, so just take them. Yet you feel there is almost no respect for Dutch women."

This also is the case for many Dutch sexual offenders. Hendriks: "They also believe that another view of women is the norm."

Dutch sexual offenders are mostly solo-molesters. Sexual problems play a big rol with them. With group-molesters, more then half of them is from immigrant origin, the sexual problems do not play a big role. It is a part of macho-group behavior.

In such a group there is mostly also crime and harrassement. The oldest boy is usualy the leader, the younger ones follow.

When the father of the two brothers of 8 and 11 was asked for an explanation, he became angry. Director J. Ronday of the public school Op Dreef, the school wich the boys attend: "Who also wants to hear that his children did such things? I would be angry too."

Op Dreef is a school with 125 pupils and twenty nationalities. The two perpetrators are already back and act normal. They learn good and are not hard to handle. According to Ronday the school is seeking professional help, because they do not know much about how to engage children who molest adult women. In the past there was a discussion about group-raping. One of the teachers showed a short film of the daughter of king Hassan, who was playing tennis without a headscarf and in a short skirt.

"But that is sports", the children said. "Sporting is different." They stopped short of saying, like 5 year old Muslimchildren said in a national radio broadcast, that Western woman are filthy dogs.

Pedagoge Hendriks no longer is schoked by the extreme young age. In the Netherlands there are 800 to 900 reported cases of a sexual offence perpetrated by youths each year.

Lessons at school that teach children that molesting is not acceptable are neccesary, according to Hendriks. "It needs to be told that when a girl says 'no', she means 'no'. And that wearing revealing cloths doesn't say anything about the girls sexual feelings".

Next to the neccesary suxual education, the Zeister neighborhood, were the molestations took place, wants to increase neighborhood activities. There is almost nothing to do for youths. Once a week a bus stops at the Laan van Vollenhove. It is a mobile clubhouse for youths between 12 and 18 year. "We have one and a half staffmembers. The rest has been scrapped because of budgetcuts", says Hans de Bree, director of the foundation Meander for sociaal-cultural work. He adds: "But one has to adjust the acitivies. Activities for kids no longer fit these youths".


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KEYWORDS: holland; immigrants; islam; moroccans; multiculture; netherlands; religionofpieces
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To: wardaddy
Maybe he's still around.

Yeah, he's still around - somewhere. I imagine he's mightily annoyed, though. My namesake, like Jan Sobieski, pulled off those crucial victories that preserved western civilization and Christianity, only to see succeeding generations fail to recognize the barbarian at the gate.

These rapes are occurring not only in "old Europe"; they've been reported in Australia as well. If we could somehow ask "The Hammer" about this current problem, I suspect his answer would begin: "First, you sharpen your sword..."


21 posted on 10/13/2003 11:15:29 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: knighthawk
Royal Dutch Shell forever has issues in Nigeria. I have family married to RDS line workers and the worst assignments are usually the ones in the muslim run countries.

Women have no freedom in these countries at all. I am amazed at the stories that come out of England and other civilized counties. To me, I'd shrug off every last negative aspect of the place I left. I don't get it. If these people love their sexist oppression so much, why did they leave in the first place?
22 posted on 10/13/2003 11:16:42 AM PDT by cyborg (Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
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To: dennisw
Or take the Mongols. They decimated the Muslims of Persia and Iraq by returning blood ten fold. Retarded Jihadists can be house broken and tamed.

The Mongols of that era were Muslims also.

23 posted on 10/13/2003 11:19:14 AM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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To: Charles Martel
"First, you sharpen your sword..."

Invest in precious metals...

steel, brass, copper, lead ...

24 posted on 10/13/2003 11:21:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: knighthawk
Those boys don't get sexual education at home, says Hendriks. That was also the case in Dutch families in the past, but then society was not as complex as it is today.

Yes, it wasn't as complex before Western Civilization kowtowed to multiculturalism.

Let's just get this over with, one way or another.

25 posted on 10/13/2003 11:25:33 AM PDT by Semaphore Heathcliffe ("Comin' down the mountain...")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
When I was a boy we had a lot less sexual education and drug awareness and a lot less teen pregnancy and drug abuse

Yes, and a lot less government interference in our lives. Gee, I wonder if there could be a connection?
26 posted on 10/13/2003 11:25:37 AM PDT by LittleJoe
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To: ArrogantBustard
You could improve your portfolio with a few chemicals,

such as nitro-glycerin ...
27 posted on 10/13/2003 11:35:44 AM PDT by Joshh86
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To: skull stomper
I've read the Koran, and I agree. It does not move me towards spirituality so much as a millimeter.
29 posted on 10/13/2003 11:44:19 AM PDT by cyborg (Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
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To: twigs
...When I grabbed his wrist and threw it back at him, he just laughed at me. It was a big game. That was in the late 70's. I would have to say that these youngsters are taught no respect for women.

Knowing what we know now, you should have broken his arm.

30 posted on 10/13/2003 11:44:56 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Just JDAM!!!)
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To: knighthawk; cyborg
"It seems to be a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degregation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700 while we have been developing."

--General George S. Patton

Prairie
31 posted on 10/13/2003 11:48:06 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I'm a monthly donor to FR. And proud of it!)
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To: Salman
This Mongol horde was not Muslim. At least according to this source---->
http://www.ceip.org/files/Publications/haqqani042103.asp?from=pubdate

An invading army is marching toward Baghdad—again. The last time infidels conquered the City of Peace was in 1258, when the Mongol horde, led by Genghis Khan’s grandson Hulegu, defeated the Arab Abbasid caliphate that had ruled for more than five centuries. And if the ripple effects of that episode through Islam’s history are any guide, the latest invasion of Iraq will unleash a new cycle of hatred—unless the United States can find ways to bolster the credibility of moderate Islamic thinkers.

32 posted on 10/13/2003 12:44:07 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: knighthawk
Do a search on FR and Google for muslim gang rape attacks on Australian girls. I can recall a quote from one of the news stories, "Do you like it Leb (Lebonese) style ?" was asked of one of the young victims after she was gang raped.
Disgusting.
33 posted on 10/13/2003 1:10:10 PM PDT by pyx (Using someone else's injury or illness to further your own agenda is not only stupid, its crass.)
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To: knighthawk
Excessive nudity and the free handeling of sexuality lead to distorted manners. Hendriks names it the Madonna-whore-complex.

A complete misuse of the notion.

"Dutch females are the whore. So this has nothing to do with that complex but with inherent racism of Islam: in contrast to Christianity and Judaism, the right and wrong depends not on the act but on the object of the act. To lie to a non-Muslim is not a lie. To rape a non-Muslim is not a rape. These kids have no psychological complexes --- they are racist as taught.

34 posted on 10/13/2003 1:13:19 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Salman
This one is primo when the Mongols killed off the assassin sect of Islam and kicked the leader to death. Muslim always like to operate from sanctuaries and send out assassins, only today they are called suicide bombers and terrorists ---->

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:LlwM3GCN9TIJ:www.users.bigpond.com/billmastermind/moments71.htm+Hulagu+Assassins+kicked&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

The Assassins’ were safe to follow their beliefs and their political killing pursuits so long as they could maintain their safe haven on top of the mountain. Yet, the longer they survived the more enemies they accumulated and the fewer adherents they were able to initiate into their fold.

It wasn’t the Crusaders, however, that managed to end their intrigues and their communistic way of life in their mountain stronghold. It was the Mongols who successfully managed that task in the mid-thirteenth century.

Under the Mongol warrior, Hulagu, the castles of the Assassins became prime targets in his campaign to conquer Iran and Iraq. The Mongols were masters in the art of siege warfare and in 1256 they took Alamut from the Sect. The last Grand Master was dispatched ignominiously, being kicked to death by the Mongol troops.

35 posted on 10/13/2003 1:18:20 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: lady lawyer
Kind of like most liberals. No wonder they get along so well.
36 posted on 10/13/2003 1:21:53 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: knighthawk
The virtue/ Godliness to a Muslim is the other parties concern.

Mooslims are not responsible for their actions,the other person is.

In our culture we see a wallet on the ground you take it to lost and found (At least we accept that we are expected too) a Muslim seeing the same wallet keeps it ( the onus is on the other party to have protected it better).

Hence their lack of progress in all areas of hman development.
37 posted on 10/13/2003 1:24:46 PM PDT by Kay Soze (Democrats’ life philosophy is so flawed they need my money to make their lives work.)
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To: Joshh86
Diversification is good.
38 posted on 10/13/2003 1:26:13 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: knighthawk
Why would anyone want to live anywhere near devout Muslims? They think we're filthy immoral subhumans who can be mistreated. After all, Mohammed broke his peace treaty with the Jews when the time was right, he led raids on caravans, he raped women taken in battle, etc. etc. etc. Why should we expect Muslims to act better than the man they all say they want to emulate?
39 posted on 10/13/2003 1:28:58 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: knighthawk
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult, "moderate" Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
40 posted on 10/13/2003 2:13:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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