Posted on 10/13/2003 10:16:59 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Now that we've elected Arnold Schwarzenegger as our next governor, there is a lot of talk about how he'll reshape the Republican Party. But he might have a bigger impact on the Democratic Party.
His 68-member transition team features many prominent Democrats -- who are being called "dinos" behind their back.
No, not dinos as in dinosaurs -- a bad pun -- but as in Democrats in Name Only, a rip-off of what Republicans used to say about people like Schwarzenegger and those who don't care about the party's conservative stance on social issues like abortion, gay rights and gun control.
A number of prominent Democrats have been speculating they need to get away from some of their extreme positions and run more toward the center -- as was done by former President Clinton -- to counter the appeal shown by Schwarzenegger in the election.
In the days since Schwarzenegger was elected, we've started learning more about him.
First, forget the power breakfasts. Power brunches might be more like it, with his penchant for afternoon news conferences.
Second, don't try to force his hand. Even as he projects his affable image and shrugs off details with comments like "all that stuff," Schwarzenegger has shown he is the person in charge and will not be embarrassed.
Just look at how quickly he distanced himself from billionaire Warren Buffett's argument on the need to change Proposition 13. Also, Schwarzenegger has moved to shape his own staff of loyalists, easing out those seen as being too close to former Gov. Pete Wilson.
And, if the recall election created a cottage industry of pundits talking about what would happen, now is the time to hear from them about what happened.
Business, political and civic organizations are all planning a series of speeches, meetings and conferences on what it all means and where the state goes from here. Of course, if they are as correct as they were during the election, only half of them will be right.
This week, Wilson, who served as Schwarzenegger's campaign co-chairman, and former Assembly Speaker Bob Hertzberg, who is a member of the new governor's transition team, will speak to political and business leaders in Washington, D.C., to offer their perspective.
That will be followed Oct. 30 by the Milken Institute's annual business conference, exploring the election and its impact as well as some predictions about the state's economy for the coming year.
Also, the Valley Industry and Commerce Association will focus on the election's impact during its 15th annual business forecast conference Nov. 7 at the Warner Marriott Hotel at Warner Center.
The recall election might be over, but some of the last-minute tricks of the campaigns continue to upset voters.
Patty Bourne of Sherman Oaks said she was incensed at one of those get-out-the-vote telephone calls she received.
"I know tricks are nothing new but as long as the people/organizations go unchallenged, they will never stop," Bourne wrote last week.
Bourne said she received one of those particularly annoying automated calls last Monday urging her to vote no on the recall and against Schwarzenegger to wait for a "real Republican" to run for governor.
Bourne took to the Internet and found that the group that paid for the call, Council of Concerned Women Voters, was organized by various Democratic Party interests.
A number of prominent Democrats have been speculating they need to get away from some of their extreme positions and run more toward the center -- as was done by former President Clinton -- to counter the appeal shown by Schwarzenegger in the election.
Hm. Must be a typo. Should be:
A number of prominent Democrats have been speculating they need to get away from some of their extreme positions and run more toward the center -- as was NEVER done by former President Clinton -- to counter the appeal shown by Schwarzenegger in the election.
Otherwise, it's just a filthy, stinking, revisionist lie.
Dan
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A liberal Democrat who gives a RINO advice to embrace liberal Democrat policies is certainly not a DINO. If they were, then every Republican who told Clinton to sign welfare reform is a RINO. Does that make sense?
Bourne said she received one of those particularly annoying automated calls last Monday urging her to vote no on the recall and against Schwarzenegger to wait for a "real Republican" to run for governor.
Bourne took to the Internet and found that the group that paid for the call, Council of Concerned Women Voters, was organized by various Democratic Party interests.
If what I understand about the Milken Institute is correct, this could be a good influence.
Bourne said she received one of those particularly annoying automated calls last Monday urging her to vote no on the recall and against Schwarzenegger to wait for a "real Republican" to run for governor.
Bourne took to the Internet and found that the group that paid for the call, Council of Concerned Women Voters, was organized by various Democratic Party interests.
Oh you are wrong there. Clinton ran towards the center (middle class tax cuts, welfare reform, elimination of marriage penalty), he just did not govern towards the middle.
That's just wrong. I really don't recall McClintock supporters saying to vote no for the recall and against Arnold. McClintock supporters had every right to support the candidate that supported them on their issues, and most were happy Arnold won. I really don't understand why so many Arnold supporters keep this big chip on their shoulders.
If by "ran" you mean "campaigned," you're right.
If by "ran" you mean "actually moved in any measurable and tangible way," I'm right.
Dan
L.A. Times - show us that great investigative reporting you think we resent. Prove there's not a double standard:
Bourne said she received one of those particularly annoying automated calls last Monday urging her to vote no on the recall and against Schwarzenegger to wait for a "real Republican" to run for governor.
Bourne took to the Internet and found that the group that paid for the call, Council of Concerned Women Voters, was organized by various Democratic Party interests.
Some McClintock supporters certainly did say this.
I really don't understand why so many Arnold supporters keep this big chip on their shoulders.
For most of the Arnold supporters here, it is just a matter of defense against the ridiculously ongoing attacks. Regardless, I really wish the infighting would cease on both sides. Arnold is in so folks can stop campaigning against him. He also has yet to make a single official act as Governor, so there is nothing yet to criticize him for. McClintock will be running to keep his seat in his district so that is entirely between him and the local folks he represents. There really shouldn't be anything to fight about at this point between the two sides.
Most of the ongoing stuff I've seen is by the Arnold crowd. For instance, what provoked the comment in this thread?
Regardless, I really wish the infighting would cease on both sides.
As it should.
There may have been a few, but that is definitely not a fair characterization of most of the McClintock supporters.
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