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'Gods and Generals' ... and an angry Mayor Dow
Mobile Register ^ | 10/13/03 | Jim Van Anglen

Posted on 10/13/2003 7:07:18 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

When George Ewert , director of the Museum of Mobile, wrote a stinging movie review of the Civil War film "Gods and Generals," he likely did not expect an equally harsh critique from Mayor Mike Dow .

Ewert's review, "Whitewashing the Confederacy (SPLC link)," was not kind to the Ted Turner film.

"'Gods and Generals' is part of a growing movement that seeks to rewrite the history of the American South, downplaying slavery and the economic system that it sustained. In museums, schools and city council chambers, white neo-Confederates are hard at work in an effort to have popular memory trump historical accuracy," the city employee wrote.

And this: "It is cloying and melo dramatic, and its still characters give an endless series of ponderous, stilted speeches about God, man and war."

In turn, Dow was not kind to Ewert, reprimanding the city employee in a Friday letter. The mayor called Ewert's review unnecessarily strongly worded, inflammatory and counterproductive.

"Why, in your very public position with all the local 'Southern Heritage' controversy that city leaders have had to manage and after several years of a hard-fought political calming of this issue, would you inject yourself so strongly and carelessly into this topic in this manner?" the mayor wrote.

"I need for you to use your better judgment and please cease and desist publishing potentially inflammatory articles of this nature without your board chairman's or my awareness and approval. Leave that to others who have less to do."

The city, particularly Dow, has come under fire in the past from Southern heritage groups claiming unfair treatment.

Ewert's review was printed in the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report. The Montgomery-based organization's Intelligence Project monitors hate groups and extremist activities.

At the end of the movie review, there is a line that notes Ewert's position with the city.

Mobile City Council President Reggie Copeland also scolded Ewert, saying at last week's council meeting that he "would accept nothing less than a public apology. ... I am very displeased with that gentleman, and I want some action taken."

Copeland made the comments after hearing about the review but before reading it. He later told the Mobile Register that the review was "not as strong as I thought it would have been. ... I just wish he would have kept his mouth shut."

Ewert, contacted last week, declined comment except to say that he would be preparing a statement for Dow. In a letter to Dow dated Oct. 9 -- one day before Dow's letter -- Ewert said the review was written in his capacity as a historian and private individual.

"I regret that anyone may have taken my comments in a 'personal' matter," Ewert wrote. "My intent was not to offend but to offer a legitimate criticism and context for the movie in question, a privilege that should by rights be open to anyone. If, again, there were those who were offended by the movie review, I offer my apologies."

Don't shoot ...:

Area veterinarian Ben George , a Confederate Battle Flag and Confederate-heritage advocate, praised Dow for his response to the review. But George said Ewert did not apologize and should resign or be fired.

"He (Ewert) shot somebody; he said he's going to shoot somebody again," George said.

George in the past has made himself something of a thorn in Dow's side, organizing demonstrations in front of Dow's house, plastering posters criticizing the mayor during the last city election and using other tactics to push his Confederate heritage agenda.

George complained to Dow after reading Ewert's article. "My staff and I have had to deal with an unnecessary and increased fallout as a result of your article," Dow stated in his letter to Ewert.

George compared the situation to the firing of a Mobile police officer, accused of using the n-word and expressing a lack of interest in helping evacuate public housing residents in case of flooding.

Ewert, like the police officer, George said, has proven himself intolerant toward part of Mobile's population, namely Confederate heritage proponents like himself.

George said he and several others planned to speak at Tuesday's City Council meeting about Ewert's comments, along with concerns that Dow has not kept his word on settling previous disputes. But, he said, the speakers may reconsider.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; dixie; generals; gods; godsandgenerals; moviereview; museum; splc
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To: justshutupandtakeit; laotzu
ratification was not revokable and joining the Union removed any "right" to secede.

Well there you go: The War was about the right of the states to secede--and not about slavery.

For having slaves was legal, but secession was not.

221 posted on 10/15/2003 10:41:19 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: justshutupandtakeit; laotzu
More accurately:

The War was about the illegality of the states to secede--and not about slavery.

For having slaves was legal, but secession was not.

222 posted on 10/15/2003 10:44:03 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Middle Man
I think Turner has the rights. (not 100% sure o that) If so, it would be up to him to decide to allow another studio to buy the rights...
223 posted on 10/15/2003 11:07:36 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Did you fall into the stupid pit?

I said grow up because your post to me was juvenile.

224 posted on 10/15/2003 11:09:35 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: Age of Reason
Certainly from the view of the English it was. However, it must be recalled that many of the colonies were private endeavors carried out with the blessings of the King but not necessarily as a government policy. English policy wrt the colonies was very much an ad hoc compliation of ill-thought out acts.

The real point is that the Americans had NO representation in parliament and could not be considered anything but subjects of the King. They were not citizens. Southerners were very much citizens of the US and had, in fact, controlled Congress, the Court and the Executive branches for most of our history up to the War.

These citizens had ratified volutarily the constitution unlike the subjects of the King who agreed to nothing. Thus, rejecting the King as an ruler was nothing like rejecting a lawfully elected president. That president was only elected because the dumbasses of the South split the RAT party into two or three branches each of which ran a candidate. Then, like spoiled brats, they had a hissy fit and started a war that only fools thought they could possibly win.
225 posted on 10/15/2003 11:20:16 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Age of Reason
For the North that was precisely the question. For the South it was entirely about slavery that was the only "right" it was concerned about.
226 posted on 10/15/2003 11:22:06 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Age of Reason
You seem to leave out attacks upon property of the legal government. Wonder why?
227 posted on 10/15/2003 11:23:38 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: carton253
I COULD have fallen into the Stupid Pit but fortunately it was so full of D.S.s that I just walked on across it.
228 posted on 10/15/2003 11:24:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You are an idiot!
229 posted on 10/15/2003 11:33:30 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: carton253
Wahhhhh, moderator cartoon is calling me names. I am so upset I can hardly see straight. Wahhhhh....oh, the humanity.

Actually, I don't want your remark removed since it is a compliment considering the source. And I never call down Big Brother anyway no matter what name I am called.
230 posted on 10/15/2003 11:43:11 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Whatever...
231 posted on 10/15/2003 11:44:24 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I just read your profile. Are you really 54? Do you really have a MA in Economics?

Because by the content of your posts, I was thinking you were age 12... and unable to pass the remedial classes.

232 posted on 10/15/2003 11:47:30 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
no
233 posted on 10/15/2003 12:04:15 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: justshutupandtakeit
no
234 posted on 10/15/2003 12:04:20 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"there is no legal way..."

Whether a cause is just, is not contingent upon governmental dictate.

235 posted on 10/15/2003 12:10:02 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: carton253
I am young at heart.

Now I am 57 1/2. Technically my degree is an A.M. same thing though. Urban and Quantitative Economics with pH.D. level study in International Economics.

If you can't run with the Big Dogs you shouldn't try.
236 posted on 10/15/2003 12:17:36 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: laotzu
Justice seems to be a government monopoly at least for about the last 400 yrs. Vigilantes aside. Or lynch mobs.

I certainly won't argue that a just cause should not override government dictate however, there was NOTHING just about the Slaver's Revolt or the system it sought to protect and expand. Government or no government.
237 posted on 10/15/2003 12:22:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
What? Do you think you're a big dog? ROTFLOL! You, a big dog... more like a Maltese, I should think... LOL!
238 posted on 10/15/2003 12:28:18 PM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
If you care to check you will find that NO founders believed in a unilateral right of withdrawal from the Union.

One: Justice James Wilson in the national convention,

If the minority of the people of America refuse to coalesce with the majority on just and proper principles, if a separation must take place, it could never happen on better grounds. ... the question will be shall less than ¼ of the U. States withdraw themselves from the Union, or shall more than ¾ renounce the inherent, indisputable, and unalienable rights of men, in favor of the artificial systems of States.
Two: Justice John Marshall on 10 Jun 1788,
'Is not liberty secure with us, where the people hold all powers in their own hands, and delegate them cautiously, for short periods, to their servants, who are accountable for the smallest mal-administration?'

'We are threatened with the loss of our liberties by the possible abuse of power, notwithstanding the maxim, that those who give may take away. It is the people that give power, and can take it back. What shall restrain them? They are the masters who give it, and of whom their servants hold it.'

Three: Madison in Federalist No. 45,
Were the plan of the convention adverse to the public happiness, my voice would be, Reject the plan. Were the Union itself inconsistent with the public happiness, it would be, Abolish the Union.
Four: Justice Paterson of New Jersey,
'The constitution ... is the supreme law of the land; it is paramount to the power of the legislature, and can be revoked or altered only by the authority that made it.
Five: George Washington, in a letter to Henry Knox in 1788,
'I cannot but hope then, that the States which may be disposed to make a secession will think often and seriously on the consequence.'

Finally, add to that all of those signing the ratifications of New York, Virginia, and Rhode Island & Providence Plantatations - they stated that 'the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness.' And add all those signing the Constitution in the federal convention (39), which seceded from the Articles, and those in each state convention, similarly seceding from the Articles. Delaware (30), Pennsylvania (42), New Jersey (38), Georgia (26), Connecticut (128), Massachusetts (187), Maryland (63), South Carolina (149), New Hampshire (57), Virginia (89), New York (30), North Carolina (194), and Rhode Island & Providence Plantations (34).

4,037 men believed in secession, just counting those that served in state conventions. And they did it without having to obtain approval from anyone.

239 posted on 10/15/2003 12:33:25 PM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: carton253
My friend who was it called whom an "idiot?" Hint it wasn't me.
240 posted on 10/15/2003 12:51:39 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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