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Donald Trump, the Neoconservative
The National Interest ^ | September 2025 | Jennifer Brick Murtazashvili

Posted on 01/08/2026 6:07:52 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

He is not a neoconservative in the sense we once knew: he does not cloak American interventions in the language of democracy promotion, human rights, or universal values. Instead, he is a neoconservative without the values. What makes him distinctive is not the substance of his policies, but the way he frames them, stripped of the moralizing tone. Oddly enough, this makes his foreign policy more transparent—and perhaps, in some ways, more refreshing.

Classical neoconservatism was never only about hawkish foreign policy. It was about the marriage of power and ideals. The movement argued that American might was essential not just to secure interests but to shape the world in America’s image. Its architects spoke of freedom as a guiding principle and cast interventions as noble missions to uplift societies. The failures in Iraq and Afghanistan discredited much of this idealism, but at least the worldview maintained coherence: American force was justified because it was said to serve universal values.

Trump’s foreign policy, however, looks strikingly similar in its outcomes yet arrives without the pretense. Take Israel. Trump is perhaps the most pro-Israel president in American history. He moved the US embassy to Jerusalem, recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights, and midwifed the Abraham Accords. These were all longtime neoconservative priorities. Yet Trump did not package these moves as part of a grand moral project. He spoke of them in terms of deals, strength, and straightforward defense of an ally.

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1 posted on 01/08/2026 6:07:52 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Funny... this so-called "neo" (="new") conservativism has been with US hella long time!
2 posted on 01/08/2026 6:20:25 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The original neocons were formerly leftist Jews who realized that the source of antisemitism was on the Left, not the Right. They pushed the republican party to be more proactive in defending the Jews, which had been more passive in the past.


3 posted on 01/08/2026 6:27:30 AM PST by MNnice
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Donald Trump the JACKSONIAN. Fixed


4 posted on 01/08/2026 6:35:31 AM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILLL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Agree or not, Trump has consistently bombed, deployed and sold military assets the world over. He has perpetually gone from one military op to the next during his second term.

He’s increasing spending, kinetic activity and boots-on-ground troop levels Mideast shitholes like Gaza and Syria...where we have ZERO interests. The troops lost in Syria lie, solely, at his feet. We’re still heavily involved in Ukraine, and have opened new fronts in Africa and South America.

He’s about to spend another 1/2 a trillion on the military, which will be wasted and plundered by the MIC long after he’s gone. The Chinese debt will be left to our children.

Some here, mostly boomers, support all of it - as they do every *single* thing he does - but it’s certainly NOT, at all, what many voted for.

Calling him the “president of peace” (lol) is farcical.


5 posted on 01/08/2026 6:39:18 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST

He has perpetually stopped one war after another. There fixed it.


6 posted on 01/08/2026 6:52:04 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: AAABEST
There is grave danger to be accumulated in the future in formulating policy from an event in history, labeling that policy e.g. isolationism, neoconservatism, America first etc., and then pursuing foreign policy designed to conform to the label rather than to the realities on the ground.

it get an area

7 posted on 01/08/2026 6:54:29 AM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

They are wrong. Trump is an old fashioned mercantilist - by far the best system. Great Power projection in a nation’s own interest is the only way. Globalist neocons betrayed our interests and sold out our industries for the false promise of “free trade.” That needs to end and be reversed.


8 posted on 01/08/2026 7:02:43 AM PST by montag813
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To: nathanbedford

lol...wut?

You’re usually - at least somewhat - articulate, but that looks like day drinking.


9 posted on 01/08/2026 7:05:43 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Trump is, in practice, a neoconservative.

He is not a neoconservative in the sense we once knew...

So, he is or isn't a neoconservative? This article sounds like an egghead who likes to use big words, but has nothing informative to say.

10 posted on 01/08/2026 7:10:23 AM PST by econjack
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To: AAABEST
As I stated in another thread, onee of the great developments in 2024 was how young people were becoming receptive to a Republican candidate. Especially young men. For about 15 minutes, being a Trump supporter was actually cool.

Well that's gone now. They now view Trump as a joke and openly mock him as just another clueless old boomer. For young men who feel shut out of the job market the housing market and have seen their prospects dim Trump's reply is "Sorry bro. The best I can do for you is become Viceroy of Venezuela and meet with Netanyahu for the 10th time at Mar-A-Lago."

11 posted on 01/08/2026 7:22:16 AM PST by hcmama
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

POTUS Trump wants to destroy, exterminate, liquidate, obliterate the democrat party and all it’s members. That’s the number one goal above all else and I approve.


12 posted on 01/08/2026 7:26:01 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: AAABEST
Let me sober up, Trump's policy is valid not because it conforms to MAGA or some notion of anti-neocon policy, but because it is right in application to the particular case.

We have heard the old saw so many times that we are aware of the danger of preparing to fight the last war, but we are always in danger of mechanically applying the lessons of the last war.

Trump has shown himself (in action if not in public statements) to be free of bondage to shibboleth for which he is to be credited, but when he misapplies these lessons he should be criticized. What has been happening in this forum is indifference or even hostility to inconvenient facts on the ground because the prevailing dogma demands reflexive, uncritical support of Trump and Trump's policies.

Trump should be roundly criticized for his duplicitous betrayal of Ukraine and for his mindless attacks on Greenland/Denmark/NATO. We should find a way of crediting his invasion of Venezuela, if not the rationale, and we should find a way of encouraging him to nurture alliances in Asia against China. These matters are not advanced by application of maxims such as "neocon" or "isolationist", or even "MAGA."


13 posted on 01/08/2026 7:32:25 AM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: montag813

That’s Hamiltonianism/ President Trump is a Jacksonian.


14 posted on 01/08/2026 7:37:14 AM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILLL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: AAABEST

Read “The Jacksonian Persuasion by Walter Russel Mead.


15 posted on 01/08/2026 7:38:22 AM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILLL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: AAABEST

“He’s increasing spending, kinetic activity and boots-on-ground troop levels Mideast shitholes like Gaza and Syria...”

The troops on the ground in Syria predate his term by a lot and there are no boots on the ground in Gaza, and you have your head up your ass.

“Some here, mostly boomers, support all of it...”

So, your lame attempt at persuasion requires you to bring in boomer support. Charlie Kirk was not trying to gain Trump supporters from the Boomer demographic.


16 posted on 01/08/2026 7:43:15 AM PST by odawg
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This is indeed unfortunate: https://nypost.com/2026/01/07/us-news/trump-greenlights-tough-russia-sanctions-bill-sen-lindsey-graham-announces/


17 posted on 01/08/2026 7:47:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: nathanbedford

Thank you.

You’ve stopped drinking, but started the crack pipe on Ukraine - total disaster and nothing but a wasteful black hole for our treasury and military gear with ZERO ROI. We’ve lost a much, including a great deal of prestige.

And yeah, the Greenland rhetoric has been beyond asinine. We could likely make it a territory (NOT a state) by simply paying off each Greenlander...I dunno, $500k each would probably do it.

I, like you, cautiously support the moves in Venezuela, mainly because it’s possibly the first and only military op we’ve done since WWII that *directly serves our interests. Besides the freeing the oil, getting rid of an illegitimate thug who was letting potentially hostile foreign assets set up shop in our backyard seems, initially, like a good thing.

I agree there are pitfalls. Nobody seems clear on what’s next. Phase II was not planned nesrly as well as the first.


18 posted on 01/08/2026 7:56:34 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST
I looked over your list and I am content if you will leave me in peace over Ukraine with my crack pipe.


19 posted on 01/08/2026 8:14:06 AM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: AAABEST

In fact Trump is a admitted Populist.


20 posted on 01/08/2026 8:15:35 AM PST by dpetty121263
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