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Marco Rubio’s dual role: A hawk in Venezuela, a dove in Ukraine
El Pais English ^ | Nov 26, 2025 | Macarena Vidal Liy

Posted on 12/01/2025 12:58:37 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

“When I have a problem, I call up Marco. He gets it solved,” Donald Trump boasts about his Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. This week, Marco Rubio is putting that reputation to the test. He is the key man on the two major international fronts the United States is currently engaged in, and with two very different roles: in the negotiations over the war in Ukraine, he took the reins to balance out what was initially a clearly pro-Russian proposal and try to push through a peace plan acceptable to Kyiv; in the standoff with Venezuela, he is one of the driving forces behind the maximum-pressure policy against Nicolás Maduro.

It’s a situation with clear rewards. If he succeeds on both fronts, the chameleon-like head of U.S. diplomacy, who has skillfully channeled and adapted to his boss’ positions—would polish his credentials with the president, a great admirer of decisive individuals. Trump has already mentioned his name, along with that of Vice President J.D. Vance, as possible successors starting in 2028. Avoiding a Russian-dictated peace plan for Ukraine would also earn him the gratitude of European partners.

But at the same time, the Cuban-American politician faces the risk of a confrontation with the MAGA movement, which opposes foreign intervention. Its members would be furious at the prospect of a prolonged war in Eastern Europe. And they fear the conflict in Venezuela could become one of the “endless conflicts” that Trump promised to avoid during his campaign…

The Secretary of State, who has always been a proponent of forcing the fall of Chavismo, has been one of the key architects of the aggressive U.S. strategy…Rubio advocated for regime change in the early months of the Trump administration, initially citing the human rights situation and election fraud…

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TOPICS: Issues
KEYWORDS: concerntroll; concerntrolling; foreignpolicy; maduro; marcorubio; rubio; russiantrollfarm; secretaryofstate; sos; ukraine; venezuela

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The former Florida senator, with his hardline stance against Maduro, ousted the special envoy for Venezuela, Richard Grenell, who favored negotiations with Caracas that would open the door to Venezuelan oil for U.S. corporations.

Interesting. Re: Richard Grenell.

1 posted on 12/01/2025 12:58:37 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

One has nukes. The other does not. Which of these things is importanter?


2 posted on 12/01/2025 1:03:07 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s very inefficient, and a bit sad, that everyone has to operate on the established narrative.

The problem with this is the established narrative rarely takes into account the most important variables.

I’m talking about the unseen moves and countermoves, and the role of entities like the CIA and MI6 as they manage narco and human trafficking while holding the good guys hostage with threats of global extinction events.


3 posted on 12/01/2025 1:06:12 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

RE: ...a hawk in Venezuela, a dove in Ukraine....

But at home he’s just a dad and a husband. Four children.


4 posted on 12/01/2025 1:11:14 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Rubio thinks more clearly about the Cuban aided dictator in Venezuela, and understand “deals”, even oil deals, will not move that dictator away from Havana. I think he understands Putin less well.


5 posted on 12/01/2025 1:13:16 PM PST by Wuli ( )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

One is covered by the Monroe Doctrine, one isn’t.


6 posted on 12/01/2025 1:14:25 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (You can vote totalitarians in but you can never vote them out...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Let’s entertain every stupid analogy we can think up.


7 posted on 12/01/2025 1:14:47 PM PST by PGR88
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Trump wants out of Ukraine negotiations before the complete collapse, which will be sudden. It’s going to look bad enough as it is. He was right recently when he said neither side wants a deal.


8 posted on 12/01/2025 1:24:25 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

And Europe isn’t helping and just criticizing, emboldening both sides to not take make peace (assuming either side event wants peace at all - but Europe’s behavior doesn’t encourage either side to change their minds). He should just proclaim he has done his best and just say it is now up to Europe since they think they can do better.


9 posted on 12/01/2025 1:31:28 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: blackdog

Don’t confuse people with facts...


10 posted on 12/01/2025 1:40:16 PM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Because Europe does not want peace. They are desperately trying to drag us into a war with Russia. And they are willing to sacrifice Ukraine to get it.


11 posted on 12/01/2025 1:42:27 PM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: packrat35

Europe: “Some Americans may die, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”


12 posted on 12/01/2025 1:43:32 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Republican Wildcat

“And Europe isn’t helping and just criticizing, emboldening both sides to not take make peace (assuming either side event wants peace at all - but Europe’s behavior doesn’t encourage either side to change their minds). He should just proclaim he has done his best and just say it is now up to Europe since they think they can do better.”

Agreed and I’ll add that neither side wants peace.

Europe isn’t helping: Europe is out of weapons to send in quantity, not capable of fast production due to not being on a war footing, and NOT sending the only thing that could matter, hundreds of thousands of troops. They don’t have those either.


13 posted on 12/01/2025 1:52:30 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

It’s pathetic Europe has allowed itself to get that way.


14 posted on 12/01/2025 2:44:47 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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