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Trump campaign pessimistic about winning Michigan again
The Politico ^ | September 22, 2019 | Alex Isenstadt

Posted on 09/22/2019 9:32:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: ocrp1982

“If you are not aware of this fact by now you are COMPLETELY and TOTALLY HOPELESS.”

I could not agree with you more. But polls are continuously posted here on FR and spoken of as though they were the gospel. Some here take them so serious it causes high levels of anxiety, bet wetting and heart attacks.


21 posted on 09/23/2019 3:50:58 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: akalinin
In a state that elected Jennifer Granholm (twice) and currently has a carpet muncher AG and a leftard governor, I don't hold a lot of confidence that Michiganders will do the right thing in 2020.

How much confidence did you have in 2016? Forget about confidence, get off of the couch, go to work for Trump's re-election.

Go down to your local pubbie office, find out how you can help, donate your time and money.

Stop whining and start doing.

22 posted on 09/23/2019 3:56:00 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist mooselimb savages, today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t be so sure, UAW GM is on strike guaranteed to create misery. Got to be Trump’s fault.

And unfortunately it is not just the strikers that are affected, it’s all the businesses in the area also.


23 posted on 09/23/2019 3:57:52 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michigan voters are already sick of our newly elected democrat governor and are ready to toss her out. She pulled a bait and switch on the road repair promise, and now wants to add a fifty two cent per gallon tax on gas at the pump to “fix the damn roads”, her campaign slogan. When asked repeatedly how she’d do it without raising taxes, she refused to give a straight answer only that she would. Michigan needs a real Republican governor, we’ve only ever had Democrats and RINOs. ...my point being, I think Michigan has had its fill of electing Democrats in executive positions for awhile and I wouldn’t necessarily think Michigan won’t turn out for Trump simply because we elected a democrat governor. What I do worry about is the Soros plant in the Secretary of State office, Joycelen Benson, who is in charge of elections in the state.


24 posted on 09/23/2019 4:02:09 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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To: ASA Vet
The only reason the Commies won State wide elections in 2018 was that they managed to get dope on the ballet

Dem voter turn out in 2018 was essentially the same as it was in 2016. It was the Republicans who stayed home and did not vote that allowed Stabenow to win and it was Snyder's dismal performance that gave us Whitmer

25 posted on 09/23/2019 4:07:32 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: Vigilanteman

That is right.

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania put Trump over the top in the Electoral College.

Michigan was not needed, but welcome.


26 posted on 09/23/2019 4:40:41 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Translation: Democrats will add thousands of fake voter registrations to the rolls and then have 110% turnout in Black precincts on Election Day. It’s happened in Philly for decades. No one in the GOP will sue.


27 posted on 09/23/2019 4:41:14 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Translation: Democrats will add thousands of fake voter registrations to the rolls and then have 110% turnout in Black precincts on Election Day. It’s happened in Philly for decades. No one in the GOP will sue.


28 posted on 09/23/2019 4:43:50 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

... from 2016

“GOP strategist Greg McNeilly, no fan of Trump, said Democrats will be working hard to paint the bombastic billionaire negatively in an effort to turn out their unenthusiastic base.”

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/05/17/trump-targets-michigan-end-democratic-dominance/84520892/


29 posted on 09/23/2019 4:44:19 AM PDT by Flick Lives (MSM, the Enemy of the People since 1898)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With his gun control package, he can get dem votes. Plenty o dems there.


30 posted on 09/23/2019 5:04:11 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: ASA Vet
The only reason the Commies won State wide elections in 2018 was that they managed to get dope on the ballet. There was a massive doper turnout. In 2020 they’ll not turn out in such numbers. Most of them won’t even be aware there’s an election.

Good point.
31 posted on 09/23/2019 5:42:56 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Rodm
Dope was on 2018 ballot and Republicans ran awful candidates.

If there was ever an organization that could snatch defeat from the jaw of victory, the MI-GOP would be it. But...even I was surprised that a commiecrat governor + commiecrat AG was elected, but the redistricting vote passed.

The doper turnout must have been epic.
32 posted on 09/23/2019 5:50:43 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: montag813

Exactly right.

Just before the 2016 election I went to a campaign event at the Trump Country Club in Sterling VA. Ivanka and Kay Cole James of Heritage were the featured speakers.

I was stunned to see the room filled with Indians who passionately support Trump. This is in the People’s Republic of Northern Virginia.

So maybe on the margins if Indians here can turn out big for Trump in 2020 we have a (slight) chance to take back the Commonwealth of Virginia.


33 posted on 09/23/2019 5:51:09 AM PDT by BurgessKoch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, considering that the GM union needed to invent a reason to be out of work...

...maybe so.


34 posted on 09/23/2019 5:59:17 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: BurgessKoch
I was stunned to see the room filled with Indians who passionately support Trump. This is in the People’s Republic of Northern Virginia.

Trump got 7% of the Asian Indian vote in '16. Nice try globalist...

35 posted on 09/23/2019 5:59:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cgbg

It’s ALWAYS a ‘turnout’ election.

I read a detailed study (which I am search all over to find again) that all elections are decided based on it.

It said Democrat turnout is relatively stable- the same percent always show up to vote.

So it is the GOP turnout that decides everything. If there is large GOP turnout, they win.


36 posted on 09/23/2019 6:03:57 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K

This is just one article which shows that the Democrats carried Flint, Michigan by 19,000 less votes in 2016 compared to 2012.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/voter-turnout-fell-with-biggest-declines-in-urban-areas-1478741378

Flint is 57% black:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint,_Michigan

Black voting turnout is the most volatile piece of the Democratic coalition—if blacks don’t like the candidates at the top of the ticket, they won’t vote.

This does a real number on pollsters who assume turnout is stable over time—of course it is not—not by a long shot.


37 posted on 09/23/2019 6:23:44 AM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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To: Bob434

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38 posted on 09/23/2019 7:14:55 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sod off, Pollutico.
39 posted on 09/23/2019 8:34:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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