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Why Democrats demonizing Trump supporters destroys accurate polls
The Hill ^ | August 11, 2019 | Kristin Tate

Posted on 08/12/2019 5:44:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On November 7, 2016 — one day before the presidential election — mainstream polling suggested that Hillary Clinton’s chances of being elected were at or above 80 percent. Relying on data and surveys that systematically underestimated Donald Trump, the nation’s leading news publications ran headlines declaring, “Trump’s chances of winning approach zero.”

The rest, as we all know too well, is history. Prior to 2016, polls provided useful and relatively accurate political forecasts. But today they can no longer be trusted—even when Trump isn’t on the ballot. While 2018 midterm polls predicted more accurate overall results than 2016, they still underestimated Republicans in several key states and races.

So what caused the decline of accurate polling? The answer, at least in part, is related to the public othering and harassment of Republicans over the last several years. Texas Congressman Joaquin Castro showed an egregious example of such treatment by tweeting the names of 44 Trump donors who live in his San Antonio district. Castro continues to refuse that he crossed a line by intentionally attempting to ostracize local Trump supporters with public embarrassment and shame.

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1 posted on 08/12/2019 5:44:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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.. public othering and harassment
???
2 posted on 08/12/2019 5:46:21 AM PDT by Cboldt
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It’s a term used by the left to mean “the other” or not one of us.


3 posted on 08/12/2019 5:49:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Always wondered how they obtain a meaningful sample. Most rational, decent people would hang up on some unwanted call seeking personal information.


4 posted on 08/12/2019 5:54:16 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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-- It's a term used by the left ... --

Ahh, they (the others) even have their own language! How precocious.

5 posted on 08/12/2019 5:56:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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It’s a term used by the left to mean “the other” or not one of us.

And they call us divisive.
6 posted on 08/12/2019 6:08:37 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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This phenomenon has been around for a while, for as long as the hatred of the left has thrown away all sense of honor and propriety.

It's called the Shy Tory Factor.

7 posted on 08/12/2019 6:11:15 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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Shows why current polling has been made unreliable:

1. People don’t want to admit voting for Trump.
2. Conservative voters are typically at work when pollsters call.
3. Caller ID lets the intended polled person opt out.
4. Most pollsters oversample democrats.
5. Most pollsters know the answers they are seeking and will cast out results they think are “outliers”.

For these and other reasons, Trump, who is generally shown to have 43 - 50% approval, is actually in the 52-55% region. In addition, if he got reasonably fair coverage by MSM, I believe he would be approaching 60%.


8 posted on 08/12/2019 6:12:17 AM PDT by JohnEBoy
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I believe that the more shrill the left becomes, the less conservatives will participate in polls attempting to predict elections.
I don’t, and if the whole election environment were more hospitable to sharing political opinions with strangers I MIGHT participate, but in the face of AntiFa, and people wearing MAGA hats being assaulted, when asked I hang up or tell them to mind their own business.

Also, I just love the hysteria the left demonstrates the day after their failed election. Again, specifically because they are so hostile to any opinion other than their own.


9 posted on 08/12/2019 6:18:43 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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If Trump had fair coverage, he’d probably be way over 60%. Good economy, wages growing faster than inflation, good judges, no new wars, etc


10 posted on 08/12/2019 6:25:10 AM PDT by rb22982
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They spew divisive venom, then wonder why normal people don’t trust them.


11 posted on 08/12/2019 6:44:05 AM PDT by Theophilous Meatyard III
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Polls are not and never have been anything more than an instrument of trying to move people one way or another in effect isolating them from “The Crowd”

They mean nothing to me as I do what I want and think what I want and I do not need to know how many others do nor care


12 posted on 08/12/2019 6:51:22 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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I suggest that pollsters need to report the percentages by call count, not by response count. Example: 10% has a preference for A, 12% has a preference for B, 5% has no opinion, and 73% did not participate.


13 posted on 08/12/2019 7:45:01 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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Will NEVER happen. There is inherent dishonesty in public polling these days.


14 posted on 08/12/2019 8:10:32 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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“Will NEVER happen. There is inherent dishonesty in public polling these days.”

Actually paid for private polling for candidates is accurate. This information is never released to the public.

It should be noted Hillary canceled her firework celebration before election day. She had access to accurate polling. She knew she would lose.


15 posted on 08/12/2019 1:41:05 PM PDT by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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