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If Trump broke the law to become president, can he be indicted, impeached?
The Times of Trenton ^ | August 23, 2018 | Jennifer Rubin, the Washington Post

Posted on 08/23/2018 9:49:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Donald Trump's actions during the campaign -- possible conspiracy to accept help from a foreign national and to violate campaign-finance laws in order to hide two alleged extramarital affairs -- as well as his actions once he became president (e.g. possible obstruction of justice, witness-tampering) are at issue for special counsel Robert Mueller and for Congress in the context of impeachment.

For now, let's assume that Trump did nothing wrong during his presidency, that only his pre-election conduct is at issue. Most commentators have taken the view that Mueller cannot indict for criminal activity during Trump's presidency, although this is a matter of current Justice Department policy and not airtight law.

We've never been confronted with the situation where the means by which a candidate got elected allegedly violated the law. When he should arguably have never gotten to the presidency to enjoy temporary immunity, must the prosecutor refrain from criminal indictment? There is no definite answer. One could look at pre-election criminal conduct as no different from criminal conduct during the presidency (i.e., no indictment), or one could look at the pre-election conduct as a fraud on the electorate. In the latter case, one could argue that the president cannot use his ill-gotten gain (the presidency) as a shield to immediate prosecution.

To take this question to the extreme, what if a candidate killed his opponent?

Joshua Matz, co-author of "To End a Presidency: The Power of Impeachment," points out that indicting for pre-election conduct raises all sorts of practical problems, including proving that the criminality swung the election....

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; U.S. Congress; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cohen; democrats; impeachment; jenniferrubin; trump
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She's what passes for a conservative in the newspaper business.
1 posted on 08/23/2018 9:49:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“We’ve never been confronted with the situation where the means by which a candidate got elected allegedly violated the law.”

All credibility of this writers
alleged conservatism just went
out the window.


2 posted on 08/23/2018 9:56:21 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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What if you were a serial rapist who became President? Could you be indicted or impeached?

Or what if you had accepted tens of thousands in college tuition assistance portraying yourself as a non-American, and then became President? Could you be indicted or impeached?

Or what if you had a private email server installed in your bathroom closet and ordered the office to cut-and-paste classified material to be sent to your home-server...while the government had all the servers necessary (at the appropriate levels) to help you do your job. Could you be indicated or impeached?

Or what if you ran a charity foundation, to enrich yourself. Could you be indicated or impeached?


3 posted on 08/23/2018 9:59:18 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What if Rubin had two brain-cells to rub together?


4 posted on 08/23/2018 10:00:00 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Trump broke the law to become president, can he be indicted, or impeached?

Her editors neglected to put in one of the words she said making that statement.

‘like’

If Trump broke the law to become president, can he be indicted, or impeached?


5 posted on 08/23/2018 10:01:10 PM PDT by stanne
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If Obama broke the law to become president, can he still be indicted, impeached?

If Hillary broke the law to run for president, can she be indicted, impeached?

I guess it depends on who is defining "the law."

6 posted on 08/23/2018 10:01:16 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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The point us that Trump did NOT break any laws.

So the title and this whole article is just evil, trying to plant into people’s minds that maybe Trump did do something criminal.


7 posted on 08/23/2018 10:01:34 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She basically asks if any presidential campaign ever broke campaign finance laws?

Are you kidding me?


8 posted on 08/23/2018 10:03:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We, Nationalist/Populace/Conservatives, should draw up a ‘List’, of Leftist Media to be “Visited”, should Trump be Impeached.


9 posted on 08/23/2018 10:03:47 PM PDT by heights
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Fake News. Fake Law.

Real consequences.


10 posted on 08/23/2018 10:05:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: heights

Time to stock up on hempen rope.


11 posted on 08/23/2018 10:06:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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When I was young and learned the meaning of the second amendment, I used to believe it was basically archaic, and that that though nice to have...we would never have a civil war or a totalitarian takeover of the government.

Now I will be fairly surprised if we find our way our of this without a very bad fight.


12 posted on 08/23/2018 10:06:40 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Bingo! Another fifth column enemy goon has self identified. Lots of turds fecal floaters ike this one in the swamp sewer.
13 posted on 08/23/2018 10:07:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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She reflects what WAPO top brass is ruminating about.

WAPO was on its deathbed some years back (2012) when Bezos of Amazon bought them out. Bezos didn’t earn the money, and his company had just the year before barely turned its first profit, a meager profit in more than 15 years since its startup.

So where did he get the money?

From a $600 million cloud services contract with the CIA.

And why did he decide to buy WAPO?

Because the CIA told him to.

WAPO became a deep state CIA mouthpiece.

And why was Bezos selected to buy out WAPO using CIA money?

Because he was a CIA kid, his father was CIA.


14 posted on 08/23/2018 10:07:11 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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“Time to stock up on hempen rope.”

Yup, but Stelter’s fat neck would need steel reinforced rope.


15 posted on 08/23/2018 10:09:05 PM PDT by heights
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They murdered JFK, now they are trying a less visible coup technique. The CIA is an enemy of the American republic as intended.


16 posted on 08/23/2018 10:10:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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The Dick Ass should dig deeper into Trump’s past and find a pattern of NDAs that had absolutely nothing to do with the Winning. But that wouldn’t help his Fake Law agenda.

We must to hammer the Democrat Thug Party this November.


17 posted on 08/23/2018 10:16:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the Trenton Times was considered more fake then the Trentonian, would anyone care?

If the Trenton Times would use Spermy Daniels as there page 6 girl, would anyone buy it?

If the Trenton Times went bankrupt, would anyone notice?

I think those are more important questions.


18 posted on 08/23/2018 10:24:21 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Innovative

The point us that Trump did NOT break any laws.

So the title and this whole article is just evil, trying to plant into people’s minds that maybe Trump did do something criminal.


Good thing they published it in the Trenton Times, because only 12 people only subscribe to it and it is just 80 year old ladies who buy for bird cage liner.


19 posted on 08/23/2018 10:27:18 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s dumber than half a box of rocks.


20 posted on 08/23/2018 10:28:49 PM PDT by Luke21 (The Hill sucks.)
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