Posted on 03/29/2016 10:31:45 AM PDT by SatinDoll
If I can’t vote for Donald Trump, I’d rather not vote at all.
Using GOPted math that is exactly right!
I will vote for Donald Trump in November. Even if I have to write his name in.
The title, which comes from Conservative Treehouse, is horsesh!t (as are so many things that come from Conservative Treehouse).
Preferring another candidate is not the same as refusing to support a candidate.
Awwww. Angry Trumpster is angry and wants to take his ball and go home if he/she doesn’t get their way.
So Trumpsters complain about the #nevertrump folks, yet do the exact same thing.
Funny, at least here, I see a lot more Trump minions claiming they’ll refuse to vote if Trump isn’t the nominee than I do #nevertrump types saying they will never vote for Trump at the top of the ticket. I think Trump is downright awful and would lose in a landslide in a general election, but I would certainly vote for him over Hillary or Sanders and expect most Cruz folks would as well.
It is B.S., and they did it on purpose, to mock those that always claim "60% rejected Donald Trump" after he won a state with 40% of the vote.
“#nevertrump types saying they will never vote for Trump at the top of the ticket”
What part of “never Trump” don’t you understand ?
The whole purpose in signing up for “never Trump” is telling the whole world that:
You will NEVER vote for Donald Trump
“#nevertrump”
Correct me If I am wrong, but I have not seen a “#neverCruz” hashtag group
Correct, yet I don’t see many here.
What I see, at least here on FR, is mostly Trumpsters saying they’d never vote for anyone but Trump for President (which obviously means they won’t vote for Cruz). Yet I see very few Cruz supporters who would not hold their nose and vote for Trump if he gets the nomination (which is still the likely outcome).
I regard Trump as a cancer in the party and a poison in the general election. A sure loser who would be utterly destroyed by Hillary. Yet despite it all, if Trump is the nominee I would vote for him simply because the alternative (Hillary) is even more awful.
I don’t waste my vote. Just because I don’t get my preferred nominee, doesn’t mean I’ll take my ball and go home. Yet that is EXACTLY what I mostly see from many, many Trumpsters.
If I cant vote for Donald Trump, Id rather not vote at all.
I’ll vote for Cruz IF he gets more delegates. If not, I don’t want to hear more about the “rules”. When the referee is biased and the rules can change so the referee can choose the winner, they are not rules for any game I’m willing to play.
I’m willing to watch and decide I’m wrong but as of now it looks like “the rules” are a way for the GOPe to pick their favorite regardless of voters choice. And the referees are as disgusted by the voters this year as we are of them.
The part that has you cavorting with liberals and Dem socialists while maintaining that you're a staunch conservative...that part dummy.
Now that the moderator has changed the title of the thread, nobody knows what we’re talking about.
There are four scenarios here:
Scenario 1: Trump has a majority of the delegates
Scenario 2: Trump has more delegates than Cruz, but not a majority
Scenario 3: Cruz has more delegates than Trump, but not a majority
Scenario 4: Cruz has a majority of the delegates
Now, everybody can agree that in Scenario 1 or 4, the person who goes into the convention with a majority of delegates should win on the first ballot and be the nominee.
But in Scenario 2, there is no reason that Trump should necessarily be the nominee, just as in Scenario 3, there is no reason that Cruz should necessarily be the nominee.
If no candidate wins on the first ballot, there is a second ballot, and every delegate is free to vote as he wishes. Now, I would expect that the primary effect of this will be that the delegates committed to other candidates, such as Kasich, Rubio and Carson, will vote for one of the two top vote-getters, and there would be a victor on the second ballot, with almost all of the people at the convention voting for either Trump or Cruz.
That is the way the system works. It has been the way it has worked for as long as I can remember. I have no problem with it.
If Trump’s people want to guarantee he is the nominee, they need to work their butts off to make sure he walks into the convention with more than half the delegates. If they fail to achieve this, he might not be the nominee.
If the rule was that the person who goes to the convention with the most votes wins the nomination, that would be the rule. But that is not the rule. To insist that the convention behave as if that was the rule denies reality, and is changing the rules after the game has been played.
Just because you interpreted in the way you saw fit does not mean you interpreted it correctly.
Ad hominem attacks are always a sign of frustration from someone that has nothing to say so they attack the messenger as if they made the most poignant of strikes ever.
The problem with scenarios 2 & 3 is that the GOPe is doing everything they can to make sure 1 & 4 don’t happen. They have made it very clear that they DO NOT under any circumstances want to follow the voters wishes (unless the voters agree with them) and they will do what they can to avoid it. The GOPe should be advocating for all of their potential nominees to give the winner the best chance of winning in November. Not trashing them in hopes that Kasich keeps the top 2 from being the voters’ majority favorite. The other things they’ve done with delegates recently may be within the rules but they certainly don’t look good.
I’ll wait and see but the scheming has already started and won’t wait until the 4 scenarios at the convention.
It’s like intentionally calling the runner out at home when he’s safe in the 6th inning to avoid having to make a game ending bad call in the 9th when everyone’s looking more closely. They have a lot at stake though so a 9th inning bad call is still possible if they can’t avoid it.
Not voting at all is essentially a vote for Hillary. Call it a half vote.
The very least we should all be able to agree on, despite the invective and venom between the 2 camps, is that we will vote for eventual nominee in an effort to defeat Hillary. Whether that be Cruz or Trump. And I detest Trump, but if that is my option against the shrill bag of bones the Democrats are going to nominate then yes, I will vote Trump.
If we could all at least agree on that, then maybe there would be less suspicion and hostility between the 2 sides.
The English have not been A Bit Cross since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.
Terrorists have been re-categorized from Tiresome to A Bloody Nuisance. The last time the British issued a Bloody Nuisance warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots have raised their threat level from Pissed Off to Lets Get the Bastards. They dont have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French Government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are Collaborate and Surrender. The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed Frances white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the countrys military capability.
The Italians have increased the alert level from Shout Loudly and Excitedly to Elaborate Military Posturing. Two more levels remain: Ineffective Combat Operations and Change Sides.
The Germans have increased their alert state from Disdainful Arrogance to Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs. They also have two higher levels: Invade a Neighbour and Lose.
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
The Australians, meanwhile, have raised their security level from No worries to Shell be right, Mate. Two more escalation levels remain: Crikey! I think well need to cancel the barbie this weekend! and The barbie is canceled. So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
John Cleese British writer, actor and tall person. April 2011
If a candidate goes into the Convention with a majority of delegates and does not leave with the nomination, I will join you on The Barricades, no matter who that candidate was.
If no candidate has a majority going into the convention, I will be watching very closely.
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