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To: Haiku Guy
Watch these video's of Cruz...and decide for yourself. DO not take my word. Cruz on recorded video's was not lying.

Cruz pushing Path to Legal Status for ALL Illegals

Cheap Foreign Workers on H1-B visa

Pushing TPP

Pushing import of Syrian Refugees

Video's do not lie. Believe Your Lyin Eyes!


119 posted on 03/17/2016 6:40:52 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote, you are actually voting for the candidate's rich donors!)
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To: entropy12

1. Cruz’s “push” for legal status for all illegals is the poisoned pill amendment that helped kill the gang of 8 bill led by Rubio. Thankfully, Cruz and Sessions were successful in killing the bill using mechanisms like the one you misrepresent here.

2. H1-B visas

In the debate, Trump explicitly affirmed this practice. He went further to say that he does use this technique for his own businesses and will do so in the future. That is not Cruz’s current position.

3. Pushing TPP

Free trade is a conservative value. Protectionism is a democrat/ unions value. We might call them New York Values.

4. Pushing Syrian refugees

Trump is on video pushing to admit syrian refugees. Both men changed their position after they quickly realized that ISIS was infiltrating the ISIS pull.

Videos can definitely lie— you just have to catch someone unaware of the larger context of issues.

I have watched all of the RNC debates and DNC debates. I have followed Cruz from the inception of his career.

I am still waiting for your explanation of how Trump fulfills the expectations of Free Republic stated values.


130 posted on 03/17/2016 6:53:03 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: entropy12

Video 1: This was Cruz’s “No Path to Citizenship” amendment that gutted the Gang of Eight and eliminated the 12 Million Instant Democrats provisions of that bill. This was a poison pill that Cruz rightly predicted would kill the bill. This is what winning looks like.

Video 2: This was also part of the Gang of Eight debate, where Cruz was offering temporary H1B visas as an alternative to broad amnesty. This was another poison pill, because what the Democrats (and Marco Rubio) wanted was 12 Million Instant Democrats, and H1Bs can’t vote. Again, this is what winning looks like. The amendment failed, and so did the Gang of Eight.

Video? 3: No video here. But I am a free trader, so you aren’t going to scare me off with TPP.

Video 4: This is not so much a discussion as a quick cut to two sound bites from the very first days of the Syrian crisis. In the first bite, Cruz talks about historic immigration and quotes Emma Lazarus. In the second bite, he talks about the need to thoroughly screen the refugees. I thought this was the universal position. Trump’s position is that screening is impossible, so all Syrian refugee immigration must be stopped. This is not incompatible with Cruz’s position. They just disagree over if screening is possible. As a first response to the problem, Cruz was right on the money advocating small numbers of well-screened immigrants.

If these four are the best you can do, you ain’t got much!


183 posted on 03/18/2016 5:12:42 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Admit you were conned / This means you are good and honest / There's no shame in this)
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