Posted on 03/13/2016 1:41:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
After canceling a Friday rally in Chicago due to potential violence, Donald Trump lost out on two major primary contests on Saturday, giving a much-needed boost to his competitors Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio.
On Saturday, Rubio - who is currently in third place in the GOP race - was declared the winner of the Washington D.C. caucus, nabbing the district's 10 delegates all for himself. Meanwhile, Cruz won nine on Wyoming's 11 delegates, with Trump and Rubio each earning one delegate each. The state's 14 other delegates will be elected at the April 16 state convention.
While Trump is still clearly the frontrunner with 460 delegates, Cruz is quickly catching up with a total of 369 delegates. Rubio, meanwhile, follows with 163 while John Kasich has nabbed 63. The Republican candidates need 1,237 total delegates to win the nomination....
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You just can’t admit you are wrong. I’ve given you all the proof that the US considered him a US citizen at birth and you can’t walk back from it.
My guess is that someone else told you this and you can’t find it.
It's totally irrelevant what Canada or any other country in the world considers Ted to be. It doesn't effect Cruz's US citizenship at birth.
He had all the rights and privileges of a US citizen from the time of his birth no matter where he resided.
Yup. Imagine the absurdity of other countries determining the citizenship of our US citizens. Think of all the possibilities.
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(26) The term “nonimmigrant visa” means a visa properly issued to an alien as an eligible nonimmigrant by a competent officer as provided in this Act. (27) The term “nonquota immigrant” means— (A) an immigrant who is the child or the spouse of a citizen of the United States;
The law defines a child born to a US citizen abroad as an alien at birth, therefore, that child in the eyes of the law is an immigrant when they enter the US. Citizenship is a political status that can only be gained by being present in the US, either at birth or upon naturalization in the US as is stated in the 14th Amendment, born or naturalized "in" the United States.
No he did not
I thought that it was a caucus... not a primary. Not all states have primaries, some have caucuses... and there are what less than a thousand republican voters in the whole state right?
I would not campaign there either. I would campaign harder for cleveland ohio... than i would for the state of Wyoming....
Whether he processed the paper work or not is irrelevant to whether he is a US citizen at birth.
Certainly processing a CRBA makes it easier for one to prove one's citizenship. But it's NOT required and there are other ways to prove citizenship.
The law specifically says that a CRBA is the equivalent of a certificate of naturalization. And yes there are other ways to prove citizenship, however, citizenship is a political character that requires residency in the US at the time of acquiring it.
Now Congress had the authority to retroactively make one a citizen, however, only when that person has acquired a residence in the US as Cruz's parent's did. Both Ted & his father came into the US on what is called ‘nonquota” immigrant visas and I have a hunch that his mother did also, as the portion of the 1952 statute that I copied and pasted went on to say on that same page, page 7 of the pdf...
(D) an immigrant who was a citizen of the United States and may, under section 324 (a) or 327 of title III, apply for reacquisition of citizenship;
Raphael Cruz Sr., by his own admission, became a Canadian citizen in 1973. I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that his wife did also, as why would she not agree with her husband to become a Canadian along with him & their son, that the family would be unified in faith & political character? Both Raphael Sr & Betty Cruz were listed on the Canadian voter roles in 1974. So is this why Ted is hiding his record of US citizenship, just as Obama did? Their records read as if they are twins, save their political party.
Post Chicago, all media and government entities are now 100% against Trump.
They fully recognize that the movement against them is legitimate.
The threat to their power has real weight behind it.
Fear, panic and violence will naturally set in.
Hunker down everyone, strange times ahead...
He lost a primary of lobbyists and special interests in DC and a second-level convention for a whopping 12 delegates in Wyoming. Electoral impact? Zero.
Ted’s a NBW... Natural Born Weasel
The following documents shall have the same force and effect as proof of United States citizenship as certificates of naturalization or of citizenship issued by the Attorney General or by a court having naturalization jurisdiction:
(1) A passport, during its period of validity (if such period is the maximum period authorized by law), issued by the Secretary of State to a citizen of the United States.
(2) The report, designated as a “Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States”, issued by a consular officer to document a citizen born abroad. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “consular officer” includes any United States citizen employee of the Department of State who is designated by the Secretary of State to adjudicate nationality abroad pursuant to such regulations as the Secretary may prescribe.
(Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 841, title I, § 33, as added and renumbered title I, Pub. L. 97–241, title I, § 117, title II, § 202(a), Aug. 24, 1982, 96 Stat. 279, 282; amended Pub. L. 105–277, div. G, subdiv. B, title XXII, § 2222(a), Oct. 21, 1998, 112 Stat. 2681–818.)
A CRBA falls under the laws of Immigration & Naturalization per Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the United states Constitution... Congress shall have power to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization. Naturalization can only take place within the United States. [per the 14th Amendment: "born or naturalized in the United States"] The CRBA is the initial application for US citizenship for ones child and only upon the fulfilling of other said requirements of the law (i.e. returning to reside with said child in the US for a specific number of years) is the US citizenship perfected for that child born abroad.
If you need a law to make you a citizen, if you need an Act of Congress to make you a citizen because you were not born in the United States, you are for all intents & purposes of the law, a naturalized citizen. Yu have the same rights as a natural born citizen, however, you may not be president. That right was only granted to those who were not citizens of a foreign nation at birth as was Raphael Edward Cruz, who was a Canadian citizen from birth until 2014.
I don’t know what part of you don’t need a visa for a US citizen to go in and out of Canada you don’t understand. Cruz never needed a visa. Immigrant or non-immigrant. Had he been born in another country he would have needed a passport. He might have a CRBA, but it doesn’t matter. He was a citizen when he registered to get his passport. The US government was apparently convinced he obtained citizenship at birth. He never had to be naturalized.
According to US Code, a CRBA is the same as a certificate of naturalization. It is not listed with the passports, it is listed with that form of citizenship that is pursuant to regulation.
Natural born citizens are not pursuant to regulation as no law governs their nationality at birth, they come by it by the fact that at birth, they were not citizens of any foreign country. And the mere fact that a CRBA can be denied, well, that alone tells us that being born abroad to one citizen parent does not automatically make one a US citizen at birth. The CRBA is an application for citizenship, it does not replace ones birth certificate, it merely makes it easier for ones US citizenship to be perfected at a later date by being able to by-pass the full process of naturalization.
A CRBA is NOT an application for citizenship. It’s an application for PROOF of citizenship and yes, it can be denied if your child is not, in fact, born a US citizen. There is no law that you have to have a CRBA if you are born abroad. It helps people that must a apply for a passport for their child to exit the country of their birth. Cruz did not need a passport to exit Canada when he was 4 years old.
The CRBA is a certificate used that a child “may” at a later date claim their US citizenship. It does not make them a US citizen while they are still residing in the foreign country of their birth where they are still currently citizens of that country because their parent(s) are also citizens of that country.
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html
Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA, or Form FS-240)
If you are a U.S. citizen and have a child overseas, you should report his or her birth as soon as possible so that a Consular Report of Birth Abroad can be issued as an official record of the child's claim to U.S. citizenship.
It does not say the "a record of the child's citizenship", it says the "child's claim to citizenship" ...
Parents of a child born abroad to a U.S. citizen or citizens should apply for a CRBA and/or a U.S. passport for the child as soon as possible. Failure to promptly document a child who meets the statutory requirements for acquiring U.S. citizenship at birth may cause problems for the parents and the child when attempting to establish the child’s U.S. citizenship and eligibility for the rights and benefits of U.S. citizenship, including entry into the United States.
Ted Cruz is a citizen by statute, not by nature.
Cruz’s mother was never a citizen of Canada, she was always a US citizen no matter where she resided. I’ve shown you over and over on the US government website that the government says he was a citizen at birth. He met the requirements by law to be considered a citizen at birth, not a citizen until he was naturalized, a citizen at birth. I’m getting off the merry-go-round.
1) there is no proof that Betty Cruz did not take the Canadian nationality of her husband because they refuse to release the documents that have repeatedly been requested. If there is noting to hide, then why not release them. 2)So you are telling me that Ted was not subject to the laws of Canada at birth, his parents living & had a place of residence in one of the 50 states of the US at the time of his birth, so that he was also a citizen of one of the 50 states at the time of his birth. That is the only way to be a natural born, all others are naturalized.
The Constitution only allows for two paths to citizenship, by birth in one of the 50 states of the nation or by naturalization in one of the 50 states in the nation.
14th Amendment, Section 1: “All person born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.”
#1 Cruz was not born in the United States, therefore
#2 he was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at birth, because
#3 at the time of his birth, the place of his parents permanent residence was located in Canada
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