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Cruz Allies Seek to Ensure Rubio Loss in Florida
The Gilmore Mirror ^ | March 7, 2016 | Patrick Sviteck, The Texas Tribune

Posted on 03/07/2016 6:24:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: beandog

Yeah, that addition of the Bush campaign finance team over to the Cruz team really says he’s an outsider! And isn’t it strange that Romney and Cruz use almost identical talking points?

I’m sure that’s all a coincidence.

Not.


41 posted on 03/07/2016 8:34:00 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: lodi90

The Cruz campaign believes it can win a majority of the delegates going forward, in a two man race.

The evangelicals went for Trump in the South. The Northeast might actually be worse for Trump at this point. The thinking is that the remaining states, given a choice between Trump or Cruz, will vote Cruz in a two man race. Maine is the operative example.

Split Ohio to Kasich and Florida to Trump and that forces Rubio out. Then, Cruz looks better in a virtual two man race going forward. It’s worth losing Florida to Trump to shake off Rubio bleeding votes in winner take all going forward.

Cruz won his Senate seat in a nine person primary where a party hack was the overwhelming favorite. His strategy then, same as now, was to work it to a two man race, and then be the contrast. It worked then. If Cruz can knock out Rubio, the strategy could work here two. At least, it’s consistent. Regardless if he wins, if he works it to a two man race, his strategy is a success in that that’s his best window to win.

When you understand that Cruz’ strategy from day one is to work it to a two man race, then you understand why he was content to run in Trumps wake for months, and why he’s hitting Rubio now in Florida. It makes sense when you examine the strategy being used.

That’s why Cruz will risk tossing Florida to Trump if it gets rid of Rubio.

My only question to that strategy is if Kasich wins MI and OH, then he’s got traction and it’s still a 3 man race.


42 posted on 03/07/2016 9:13:07 PM PST by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hope Rubio stays in. Two birds with one stone.


43 posted on 03/07/2016 9:27:13 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ziravan

he Cruz campaign believes it can win a majority of the delegates going forward, in a two man race.

The evangelicals went for Trump in the South. The Northeast might actually be worse for Trump at this point. The thinking is that the remaining states, given a choice between Trump or Cruz, will vote Cruz in a two man race. Maine is the operative example.

Split Ohio to Kasich and Florida to Trump and that forces Rubio out. Then, Cruz looks better in a virtual two man race going forward. It’s worth losing Florida to Trump to shake off Rubio bleeding votes in winner take all going forward.

Cruz won his Senate seat in a nine person primary where a party hack was the overwhelming favorite. His strategy then, same as now, was to work it to a two man race, and then be the contrast. It worked then. If Cruz can knock out Rubio, the strategy could work here two. At least, it’s consistent. Regardless if he wins, if he works it to a two man race, his strategy is a success in that that’s his best window to win.

When you understand that Cruz’ strategy from day one is to work it to a two man race, then you understand why he was content to run in Trumps wake for months, and why he’s hitting Rubio now in Florida. It makes sense when you examine the strategy being used.

That’s why Cruz will risk tossing Florida to Trump if it gets rid of Rubio.

My only question to that strategy is if Kasich wins MI and OH, then he’s got traction and it’s still a 3 man race.


8,000 votes (allegedly) in a state of 1 million do not make a race.

The GOP will never allow Cruz to get 1237 delegates. If he gets close they will rerun Rubio. Cruz’s increased support is entirely anti-Trump. That will melt away the minute there is another option and it is clear Trump won’t reach 1237. At this point Cruz is doing the bidding of the GOP and peeling away conservative support from Trump. Cruz’s talking points mesh with Mitt Romney and he is not longer campaigning against Rubio.

This is at time for choosing. Right now Ted Cruz stands with Mitt Romney. United we stand, divided we fall.


44 posted on 03/07/2016 9:31:02 PM PST by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: sagar

Don’t call Cruz a fake conservative. He might might be a big fat, Goldman Sachs globalist, whose wife worked with the CFR to fashion the North American Union where we would lose our sovereignty like the nations of Europe did to the EU, but at least he holds rallies in churches where he prays.


45 posted on 03/07/2016 9:32:41 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: lodi90

We disagree.

Cruz is both anti-establishment and consistently conservative.

Trump is a question mark to me. I appreciate him clearing the field, especially taking out Jeb!

At the end of the day, are we looking for a wrench to ruin the machinery, or a conservative cog in the control panel?

Trump is a wrench, to be sure. Cruz is a conservative.

But. You can’t argue about cogs to people looking for a wrench. That’s the disconnect of this whole election season.


46 posted on 03/07/2016 9:41:21 PM PST by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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To: ziravan

What happened to “Cruz follows the ‘original intent’ of the Constitution”. That use to be his claim to fame.... Nobody but nobody is calling Cruz that any longer. What happened? There was a time when Conservatives rejected whole hog the notion of a VAT tax... but now it is considered ‘consistent conservatism’?

Some people are born to deceive and some people are born to be deceived.


47 posted on 03/07/2016 9:47:00 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is nonsense. If Trump wins Florida and Ohio, the race is pretty much over.


48 posted on 03/07/2016 9:56:51 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One scenario that people are not talking about enough is that once a candidate drops out, all his delegates become unpledged, they are free to vote for anyone they want on the first vote.

So say we have a scenario where Trump has 1100 delegates votes, Cruz has 1000 delegates, and Rubio/Kasich/rest of the field has 350 delegates, but they have dropped out before the convention. Those 350 are free to vote for anyone on the first ballot, if they break 250 to Cruz and 100 to Trump, that would push Cruz over the edge.

Currently the non-Trump/Cruz field have 208 delegates.


49 posted on 03/07/2016 10:06:17 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz senses weakness in Rubio and Trump and intends to win FL. That would probably give Cruz the delgate lead.


50 posted on 03/07/2016 10:14:11 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: ziravan

“It’s worth losing Florida to Trump to shake off Rubio bleeding votes in winner take all going forward.”

Cruz truly intends to win FL and take it to the barn. To cause a Rubio loss in FL Cruz need do nothing.


51 posted on 03/07/2016 10:33:49 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I realize this anecdotal,but here it is anyway.

I voted today in Florida early voting. I voted Rubio. There was a slow and steady flow of voters. What I noticed was that the voters were all pretty
much like me ...old! I’m 76 and I did n’t see anybody younger than about 65.
I spoke with quite a few of the others and we were almost all going Rubio!
Lets say it was about 70% Rubio.
Like I said it’s anecdotal so make what you will of it.


52 posted on 03/09/2016 3:28:23 PM PST by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Cruz senses weakness in Rubio and Trump and intends to win FL. That would probably give Cruz the delgate lead.

Cruz knows he can't win Florida After last night he might as well quit

53 posted on 03/12/2016 4:07:58 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Mike Darancette

Cruz is a distant third in FL. Cruz is wasting GOPe money here, but that’s okay by me.


54 posted on 03/12/2016 4:16:32 AM PST by Cboldt
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