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1 posted on 03/04/2016 1:03:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The next 10 days are going to be very good for Donald Trump. If we’re still fighting beyond that, I think you can count on another President Clinton.


2 posted on 03/04/2016 1:07:11 AM PST by RC one
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Memo to GOP Establishment: you can’t buy Trump, however Cruz will gladly take your money.


3 posted on 03/04/2016 1:08:28 AM PST by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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No sale.


5 posted on 03/04/2016 1:20:01 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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Was it Fred Thompson?


6 posted on 03/04/2016 1:21:41 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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If Cruz, or worse, Rubio, gets the nomination, then Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States...and, once again, the Stupid Party will have clutched and lost the game.

The Republican Establishment reminds me of Charlie Brown repeatedly trying the kick, only to have Lucy yank the ball away at the last second.


7 posted on 03/04/2016 1:21:50 AM PST by dinodino
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A very well articulated, but alas, totally clueless analysis of the situation by the writer.


8 posted on 03/04/2016 1:27:20 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Works for me.


9 posted on 03/04/2016 1:42:31 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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The GOPe figured this one out a couple weeks ago, and they’ve already invited Cruz over to sit down and ‘Have a Cigar’.

Personally, I don’t think I could stomach having to watch Hillary lay her hand on a Bible and swear to ‘protect and defend’ anything. I’ll spare her the 3rd degree burns and stick with Trump.


11 posted on 03/04/2016 1:42:51 AM PST by Eisenhower Republican (Queeg is gone. Keefer's next.)
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Cruz burned his bridges and can't unify the electorate.

Neither can he beat Hillary, Sanders, nor any other Dem!

Trump's supporters are loyal, they won't leave him, the blacks, disaffected Dems, and many other of his supporters will NEVER vote for Cruz; not EVER!

Cruz is a regional candidate and not even a good one, at that. So HOW is he going to win enough delegates and the 8 state outright minimum to be the nominee?

This article is just HOGWASH and a pipe dream!

12 posted on 03/04/2016 1:43:38 AM PST by nopardons
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Memo to GOP Establishment: Ted Cruz is the Best Deal You’re Going to Get from Conservatives

That's what is so great about the position the Establishment finds themselves in: both of their great hopes have floundered (Bush & Rubio) and now they're faced with backing Ted Cruz against Donald Trump.

From FR's perspective, with about 75% of members supporting Trump and 25% percent for Cruz, that's perfect, because the Establishment is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

If Freepers would just drop all the needless acrimony and watch the chips fall where they may, things will be fine.

But if Ted Cruz sells his soul in order to help the Establishment take out Trump, by which act he will then be beholden to the Establishment, that will completely taint the voter enthusiasm and splinter the party.

Thus Ted Cruz has a few possible paths:

  1. The path whereby Cruz doesn't sell out to the Establishment and beats Donald Trump fair and square, seizing the reigns of the Revolution which is occurring. This would be extremely difficult if not impossible, but at least Cruz would remain true to himself, and potentially preserve the voter enthusiasm, and if he comes in second, he might end up with the VP slot.
  2. An "alternate" path where Cruz somehow joins the sleazy establishment anti-Trump slime-machine all the way through to the convention and, with their continuous assistance and his "formidable" delegate count, helps the Establishment to somehow wrest the nomination away from Trump via a brokered convention, thwarting the will of GOP voters in particular, and the American People in general. In such a case, maybe Cruz fancies he could get the nomination himself, but more likely he would play John The Baptist to the Establishment's Savior Mitt Romney, accepting the VP slot to an Establishment nominee by deferring to the "elder statesman" Mitt Romney.
  3. A third possibility would be that Cruz could step aside and throw his support behind Rubio. Bwahahahahaha, I'm sorry, I couldn't type that with a straight face!
The only righteous path for Cruz to take is path #1. And path #2 also has the disadvantage of guaranteeing a Hillary Clinton Presidency, due to the unenthusiastic candidates and the perceived (and actual) shenanigans which will have been necessary. Path #3 seems most unlikely.

I believe I've already seen signs of Ted Cruz moving in the direction of option #2, what with his absurd sliming of Trump with the David Duke issue.

Playing the race card, especially when its basis is known to be a scurrilous falsehood, is one of the most lowdown tricks in the book, and is the single greatest reason for my growing skepticism of Cruz's character.

Go, Trump, go! Things will be OK. The GOP will enjoy a massive demographic shift in its favor, and cripple the Democrat party for decades to come. And the People will get pro-American policies which could benefit all Americans. And the Washington status quo of both parties will be shaken to its core.

The alternative is a Hillary Presidency against the backdrop of a hopelessly splintered, or even disintigrating, GOP.

Go, Trump go! It's the only way to be sure...

13 posted on 03/04/2016 1:47:16 AM PST by sargon
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I support Ted and am sending him my small gifts every week through this heavy season of primaries and caucuses before Easter.

But I’m not happy with Ted’s light response to matters out West. There’s a rebellion out there and people who participated in it, including a prominent Trump supporter in New Hampshire yesterday are being arrested.

Ted better get way up to speed with a relevant message for the folks in Idaho where there’s also a primary next Tuesday.

How about ‘free the Hammonds’ unjustly sent to prison as ‘terrorists’ for setting a backfire to protect their ranch in Oregon.

If Ted doesn’t notch it up on things like this, the Trump bulldozer is running him over big time.

I’m thinking about not sending Ted any money after next week.


14 posted on 03/04/2016 1:49:12 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS:REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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Two thoughts. (1) If Trump does very well between now and the 15th, he should definitely have a very serious look at his personal security as the GOPe may be willing to do anything. Anything. (2) If Cruz does well as manages to overtake Trump, which is still possible, he should know that the GOPe will also be against him. Particularly if it came to a Brokered Convention - the GOPe hates him (almost) as much as they hate Trump, and at the convention they will definitely not support Cruz.


15 posted on 03/04/2016 1:49:53 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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Cruz wants a war with China, Russia and North Korea, to create jobs and to satisfy campaign donors in key industries.


17 posted on 03/04/2016 2:45:45 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (You don't have to like Trump, his enemies certainly don't.)
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Yes, we all get it. Cruz is the true social conservative. No one denies that. It isn’t selling. Few think social conservatism is the solution to our present danger.

And as a former submarine officer, I find his talk about CINC condescending. He knows nothing about it because he never ran anything more than his mouth.


29 posted on 03/04/2016 3:25:12 AM PST by AndyJackson
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I listened again last night to this phony canard that is being used to show that Trump can not win the General Election. It is some version of this: Well you haven't got more than 50% of Republican voters so that means that 50-60% don't like or support you. What does that stupid argument say for the other candidates who are behind Trump by 20 percentage points or more? We all know Cruz is the most conservative of the lot but if Trump were not there taking the flack, the multi-headed enemy would be about destroying Cruz. He has zero ability to appeal to and get cross-over voters and the media and GOPe will destroy him in a general election in a heartbeat. Worse yet, he will not have any money to wage a war against Hillary, because he is not independently wealthy like Trump and he will have relatively few large donors supporting him vis-a-vis Hillary's money machine. The enemy hates Trump, but their vitriol is even higher for Cruz. I hate to say this but Cruz would go down in the General as another Goldwater. His campaign would look very much like his filibuster on defunding Obamacare. He will put up a helluva good fight, but no victory. Right now, the enemy strategy is take out Trump, then demolish Cruz. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. We are in high stakes politics for this Country right now and we better get it together.
34 posted on 03/04/2016 3:39:05 AM PST by iontheball
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The problem with Cruz, with all the Pub candidates except Trump, is that they are getting their money from rich donors who will expect to influence policy in return.

All new presidents begin immediately to campaign for the next election. That campaigning requires money, lots of it. A President Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich will have to satisfy their major donors if they expect more money.

This puts the rich donor class right back in the Presidential driver’s seat, molding policy to their satisfaction, & not necessarily to the satisfaction of the people who elected them.

If Cruz had refused all big donors & focused on a grass roots campaign, I would be backing him now. As it is, Cruz is owned just as all the others are, with the exception of Trump.


40 posted on 03/04/2016 4:37:29 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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However, this year the GOP appears to be fracturing into three segments: the "vote for Trump to bulldoze DC" segment, the establishment "#NeverTrump" segment, and the limited government constitutional conservative Ted Cruz segment.

This helps. I've been wondering over the past week or so where I fit in, because I can live with Trump if I have to, but only because the alternative is incomparably worse, like supporting Jehu in the time of Elijah but only because the alternative was Jezebel.

There are enough of us, I think, who think of Trump, not as the Savior of the Nation, but as the opportunist who knows exactly the pulse of the public, and is exploiting it for his own power grab--except that his power grab is less likely to destroy the nation than the power grab of our most likely opponent, Hillary Jezebel Clinton.

So here is my problem. I despise Romney's pusillanimous attempt to "Operation Chaos" the primaries--as a Floridian, I will not ever again vote for Rubio--and Glenn Beck's call for a Cruz/Rubio ticket is absurd on its face--even Trump/Cruz make more sense, though Trump in his own tactical stupidity destroyed that possibility after Iowa. All this makes me less undisposed to Trump.

But at the same time, I am sick to death of the general argument of Trump supporters, which is not, "He is the best candidate in the race, and here is why," but instead is, "Get with the plan, stupid, the train's leaving the station!," which makes me less disposed to support Trump rather than more, because to be a conservative is to think rationally, to think logically, to see human nature for what it is and not give in to its worse side.

So I cannot stand with the anyone-except-Trump side, and I cannot stand with the nobody-but-Trump side, and for this we are reviled by most on our side, and everyone in the opposition. I wonder at times, as a supporter of Cruz on conservative principle, if Cruz does not feel a little like Elijah, who was convinced that he, he alone was left. But God reminded Elijah that there were 7000 who had not bowed the knee to Baal--and the Baal of our time is the oversized government, which Hillary and Bernie promise to grow, and Trump does not promise to shrink--and there are still those of us who long for an America freed from the twin Baal/Ashtoreth idols of big government and identity politics, who will, if the tide does not turn soon, have to wait yet another four years, or eight, or perhaps until His return.

42 posted on 03/04/2016 5:02:53 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Trump is the best deal they are going to get. He will change his positions over and over until he has made his deal, he even did it last night.....the ultimate party insider player. I can not figure out why the elite do not understand this. They get the guy who rides the anger to victory then works with them and caves.

The GOP is the stupid party.

44 posted on 03/04/2016 6:12:25 AM PST by Lady Heron
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I agree! Is this a good thing? When will Ted disavow the GOPe?


45 posted on 03/04/2016 10:14:36 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (My first choice is Trump If the candidate has worked in DC, I don't want them.)
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