Posted on 02/12/2016 6:47:29 AM PST by Sybeck1
I have been studying health care policy for 20 years now. I am also a multi-state licensed health insurance broker who continues to operate in an increasingly less competitive and more bureaucratically controlled system on both the federal and state level. During the last 20 years I have seen a lot of changes in the U.S. health care system. Some of them good (HIPAA) and some bad (Reagan’s EMTALA) the PPACA a.k.a. “Obamacare†etc.
During the last two decades I have read everything I could get my hands on pertaining to health care policy. I also spent the longest two weeks of my entire life reading the PPACA – Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act – shortly after it was passed into law on March 23, 2010. I have also appeared on television, radio and written expert commentary on health care policy on this blog and for professional business journals around the country. If there is one thing I know it is health care policy and if there is another thing I know it is a lie when I hear it.
I have bit my tongue long enough. As a delegate for Senator Ted Cruz I have been placed into a difficult and increasingly uncomfortable position and now I have had enough! Continuing to support Senator Cruz after he repeats incorrectly and ad nauseum that “A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for Obamacare“ and, that “if you vote Donald Trump, you vote for Bernie Sanders-style socialized medicine.“ Or even worse that Trump, Clinton and Sanders “have the identical position on health care†has forced me into a crisis of conscience. These are statements that even the left leaning Politifact has correctly identified as FALSE.
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You assume something not in evidence, that the “we” needs to be government agencies.
Trump has spoken well of Christian activities. Here is an obvious starting point to roll back FDR’s folly. Give charity back to churches, or at the least back to independent entities.
Socialism was tried on this continent with the pilgrims.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1730530/posts
Doesn’t matter if it’s labor, education, retirement or healthcare...it fails every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrlDlrLDSQ
You’re projecting your own views and wishes on him, I’m afraid.
I’ve heard him say that government was going to pay for it. That’s during this campaign, not ancient history.
And another thing you might have missed: Scotland’s system was not as cold and impersonal as our modern bureaucrats because they had a good relationship with churches. Even the terminology was ecclesiastical. Christianity in general is a theology of caring. Our modern bureaucrats? EEEEEEK! Can NOT fly. England has made a valiant fig leaf of it, but the system is dying because the Christianity is gone out of it.
Be careful about sleight of hand with respect to the pertinent factors in the situation. We cannot compare cherries to choke cherries.
Thank you I actually misstated what Obamacare is. It is not a solution for a problem that didn’t exist. The problem that didn’t exist was an excuse for the government to muck up another area of our lives where they do not belong. When you have complicated issues with many solutions, the government with their one size fits all system is a guaranteed failure.
And you are absolutely correct about the armies of government droids now wasting time and taxpayer funds on everything but healthcare.
I am observing how Trump processes ideas. Nobody has seriously broached anything better to him.
You are like those animals in the story of the little white hen. You want to criticize while she bakes the bread. Then you wonder why the bread is only hers.
Well, if you believe Trump... he has said that he does.
I don’t always believe him, but I do on that.
But it won’t cost us ANYTHING because The Government will pay.
By the way,in the debate last night, Hillary claimed credit for Obamacare. She said it was originally Hillary-care.
Hillary would claim credit for the sun rising in the east.
But ... but ... the Trump people are saying Cruz lied about this?
Who am I gonna believe? Trump or Trump?
The “older” age was 2000.
From the debate:
“As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland, it could have worked in a different age, which is the age you are talking about here”
The age Baier was talking about was Trump’s comments in 2000 about it, which Baier referenced in his question.
The 199/2000 comments were:
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Speaking with Larry King Live in 1999, Trump said he was “quite liberal” when it came to health care.
“I said I’m conservative, generally speaking, I’m conservative, and even very conservative,” Trump told King in response to a question about a “patients’ bill of rights. “But I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: What’s the purpose of a country if you’re not going to have defensive and health care?’”
“If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care,” he said. “I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.”
He wrote in his 2000 book that, “We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.”
You can see the debate question at this link
The “different age” was 1999/2000.
I thought it was funny !!
Please don’t think I watched the two old socialists sparring.
I saw the lowlights on Fox this morning.
And even yet you haven’t looked at just WHAT was being most recently proposed as a “government pay.”
You are the one who is projecting your gloom prophecies.
There’s even better answers, but it can’t ever involve forgetting a “brother’s keeper” attitude. This is innate to society. Normally its religious structures have mediated this. When the government bids fair to become its religion, we see a farce like the current situation.
Until we call on Jesus to push the Caesar idol’s head out of the tent (to shamelessly mix many metaphors) we should not complain too much. We’ve invited it, yes you and I. And if you deny that I will be pickled tink (I mean tickled pink) to point out just how.
That’s an infinity for a moving entity like Donald, who actually keeps learning.
Watch out for the entities like Ted, who claim to have it all packaged up in a neat package for all time. They cannot adapt, they cannot grow.
Every time I think of England’s health care system, I feel a pang of sadness.
I had a good friend in my church who came over from England as a war bride and made an excellent career in banking.
She had been a widow for a while and was always nostalgic for England. She had health problems and was naive enough to think it would be a good situation for her. She also thought her family was close.
It was a nightmare. She sold everything to go. She could NOT get good healthcare. I think it destroyed her, physically and emotionally. She came back a year later, not the person she was.
Trump(2016) is the current version.
This is like asking what edition of Windows you will believe.
You would be better off shouting to Bill Gates to fix things and not break other things.
I think you are mistaking core values for unwillingness to grow.
When you have core values, as Ted does, you have a firm starting point.
You can grow from there.
Trump does not have that ... it frees him to glom onto various ideas but that does not make it good.
Look at the replies to my post 3.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/3396154/replies?c=3
Just for posting Trump’s own words, I’ve cussed at - called a liar - insulted and worse.
lololol
And I’m just the messenger here. But Trump fans are all ape-bleepy.
Hey, HiTech,
How did you like our exchange? It was civil and we both made points.
I think England went into that with a certain church mindedness. However the church of England has ceased to be the entity that was setting the tone. More and more it was the secular authorities who were subject to the same ole same ole venality and vanity.
I could rant on how it was such a horrible mistake for the church to mix with Caesar, but it wasn’t a cloud that had no silver lining. It often put a kind of diffuse goodness into society, even if it fell short of its salvational potential and fell prey to being manipulated by ungodly men.
We need to engage with Donald, is my earnest recommendation. He isn’t impervious to good ideas. He’s proven that before.
Something that (1) enables freedom and (2) encourages churches to get back into the picture, would be a recipe for immense progress. And Trump might entertain both notions if he can see a way to get from here to there.
I wouldn’t hoot too loudly at “Making America Great Again.”
Trump has already done more with this idea than Cruz has done with his. You can claim to have a core but if you never DO anything with it... and I have many church compatriots who have agreed with me that Ted has just that problem... you create problems in God’s kingdom that a worldly person never would create.
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