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Predicting the next president
World Magazine ^ | December 21, 2015 | Professor D.C. Innes

Posted on 12/21/2015 1:25:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/21/2015 1:25:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Headline's already written.


2 posted on 12/21/2015 1:28:19 PM PST by PROCON (Merry CHRISTmas!)
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To: PROCON

If trump is the nominee, he loses to Hillary.


3 posted on 12/21/2015 1:37:27 PM PST by wny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the FBI may yet put Clinton in handcuffs for mishandling top-secret information.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dreamer. The lefty Obama fix is in and the FBI can’t touch Clinton.......unless she loses the election.

Maybe the next president will put Clinton behind bars, just like she did to Wes Hubble ( the father of her only child) and the White Water take-the-fall gang.

Clinton, like Obama, is a clear and present danger to the nation as a treasonous POS.


4 posted on 12/21/2015 1:37:46 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: wny

Hey weeny -,

What a tool! Who cares about your weasel brain thinks?


5 posted on 12/21/2015 1:43:19 PM PST by RightGuy
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To: RightGuy

Aren’t you clever....reflexive insults instead of reasoned argument. Just like your boy trump.


6 posted on 12/21/2015 1:44:53 PM PST by wny
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To: wny

“If trump is the nominee, he loses to Hillary.”

If Trump is the nominee, Hillary doesn’t win NY, NJ and possibly the entire rust belt. The unions may like Hillary, but Trump is the one who pays their salaries with his construction projects. He understands how unions work and will be tough but fair with them.

The muni’s are a completely different animal.


7 posted on 12/21/2015 1:52:23 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz)
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To: wny
NO...........he wins!

If Cruz is the candidate....Hillary wins.

8 posted on 12/21/2015 1:56:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You are correct and Trump just might also win several of the New England states as well; perhaps even Pa. !


9 posted on 12/21/2015 1:57:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: wny

I wouldn’t bet on Trump losing to Hillary. She’s had virtually no attention paid to her because HE has commanded all the attention. Once she’s out there, she will wear thin very fast.

Her screeching voice will be a turn off. Most people already see her as a liar. Folks may be nervous about the things Trump says (while secretly agreeing with him) but they don’t think of him as a liar.


10 posted on 12/21/2015 2:05:08 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: wny

Like your “reasoned argument”? Are you aware you are a self-parody?


11 posted on 12/21/2015 2:12:16 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will have to go with Occum’s Razor in this one. The most likely scenario is usually the correct one. Most likely DJ Trump will be the next President of the US. God willing and the crick don’t rise. :-)


12 posted on 12/21/2015 2:16:29 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: nopardons

It doesn’t matter how many times you and others say Trump is going to win against Hillary....your “opinion” is not supported in any poll right now.
In almost all the national polls, Trump is behind Hillary.
In some cases he is very far behind (Fox News 11 behind).
His favorable/unfavorable/negatives is consistently worse than the other Republican candidates...and his negatives are very close to Hilary’s.

In the Fox News poll (compared to Cruz) Trump gets no more (at least any significant) crossover vote, or African American vote than Cruz.
Cruz gets more under 35 votes than Trump.

Your opinion at this point is just an opinion and no matter how much you or others say Trump is a lock against Hillary doesn’t make it so.
Polls can change, but I have yet to see consistent poll numbers suggesting Trump beats Hillary.


13 posted on 12/21/2015 2:43:18 PM PST by kygolfman
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If you are so confident that Trump is already president elect, why do you feel the the need to come here and tell us that all the time.

I would think you have better things to do...like making plans to attend his inauguration in January 2017.


14 posted on 12/21/2015 2:47:29 PM PST by kygolfman
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I’m a multi tasker. I can promote Trump and sew my inaugural gown at the same time. :-)


15 posted on 12/21/2015 2:49:52 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: kygolfman
This crap is just opinion pieces, which do NOT take into consideration the past, nor the fact that Trump KNOWS Hillary and knows exactly how to press her buttons, which Cruz doesn't.

The polls that I have seen, show that Trump is now getting at the least, 25% of the black vote. Cruz isn't getting anything like that.

Trump is getting a LOT of disaffected Dem voters' votes. Cruz? No, he isn't getting those.

Trump's negatives have fallen greatly, so I suggest that you keep abreast of the latest polls.

My opinion, unlike yours' and many of the pundits' and talking heads' is based on facts, knowledge, political history, and yes, also my gut feelings; but, mostly all of the former and just a tiny bit of the last one.

I highly doubt that you ever watched the Lazio V Hillary debate. I did. You should see if you can find it on line somewhere and watch it.

16 posted on 12/21/2015 3:05:22 PM PST by nopardons
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Trump has had all the attention from the media,....because he generates ratings and that way they can ignore all the other republican candidates. Generally, trump has gotten more coverage than the republican field combined. Whichever other R candidate that happens to be sparring with trump at a given time gets attention. And most of that attention is the media asking them what they think of what trumps said. Trump is not a conservative in any way, shape or form. He will get only a fraction of that voting block. Many will stay home. He's only recently a republican. In the recent past, he's said he identifies more as a democrat! Most traditional R voters will vote for anyone other than Hillary, so that would help. But others would stay home. Many will be turned off by his style....I don't think he appeals to mushy-middle moderates. Conversely, most demhole voters will vote for any criminal with a "D" after his name, so I don't see him peeling off many of those, come'on - those people were stupid enough to put Obama in twice.

then there's the media. They like him now - because he generates ratings and they can use him to ignore or hammer other R candidates. As soon as he's the nominee, they will come after him. Same as they did McCain. He was their favorite republican as long as he was poking Bush in the eye. After the nomination, he never knew what hit him. That he didn't expect this showed he was to stupid to be president. Trump is an easy target....top 1%, out of touch billionaire, offshoring jobs, questionable business practices, bankruptcy, divorce.....the media will have him for lunch. True, he handles them better than most republicans. Now. But when their mission is to get the wicked witch of the east into the White House, there is no limit to how low they will stoop. All they need to do is convince the morons to vote Hillary....same as they convinced then to vote Obama.

Also, he has no reasoned arguments or positions on anything....it's all shoot-from the hip bumper sticker thinking. He resorts to insults and put downs and telling us how great he is, like an 8-year old on the playground. In the past he's supported open borders/amnesty, socialized medicine, gun control, the Kelo decision. He's donated to the Clintons and Harry Reid.

He's used to being the boss - a dictator of sorts. What he says, goes. He snaps his fingers and people jump. That'll work real well. I honestly don't think he wants to be president. He's like a dog chasing a car. He has no idea what to do with it when he catches it. He loves the attention and adoration. He's every bit the narcissist Obama is. I can see him getting the nomination and throwing the fight. Or at least not caring if he wins or loses.

This all smells like president Hillary to me.

17 posted on 12/21/2015 3:14:48 PM PST by wny
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Ok.
Could you give me links to those polls showing Trump getting that much of the African American vote...or the crossover Dem votes.

Also in the last Fox News poll...Trump is basically tied with Hillary with the independent voters.

I do remember Lazio getting killed by the media for bullying a woman...
Hillary and the media will pull that card on Trump also if he goes too far.

My hope would be that Hillary is unelectable no matter who she is running against.


18 posted on 12/21/2015 3:15:46 PM PST by kygolfman
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There are still six weeks till the primaries begin, and changes can occur. No one at the race track gives up hope and tears up his ticket if his horse is only in second place before the horses start coming down the home stretch.

However, there are two polling figures that seem relatively solid and important — Hillary at 56% vs. Bernie Sanders at 30%.

Bernie represents the Democratic wing of the Democratic party — the socialist center of passion among Democratic voters. Hillary can’t win the presidency without Bernie’s voters, and she can’t win Bernie’s voters without including him as the vice-presidential candidate on her ticket. However, she can’t include him on her ticket and still win the presidency because Bernie is a Socialist whom the vast majority of Americans would reject.

Hillary can’t win.

Yes, Hillary has the mainstream media fighting on her behalf, and she has hundreds of millions of dollars to promote her candidacy — yet those extraordinary advantages have not prevented an old white-haired Bolshevik warhorse from winning 30% of Democratic party support. And she has only managed to secure a bare majority, 56%, for her own candidacy.

Of course, the pro-Hillary media will never say a discouraging word about their favorite candidate. But they can’t help her avoid reality.


19 posted on 12/21/2015 4:25:11 PM PST by Bluestocking
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They may like the ratings, but the media doesn’t “like” Trump in the way the liked McCain. I think you severely underestimate his appeal to independents and what used to be called Reagan Democrats (who will soon be known as Trump Democrats). And I think you underestimate Trumps ability to manipulate the media. I suggest you watch Scott Adams’ analysis which I think is spot on.

https://reason.com/reasontv/2015/10/06/donald-trump-is-a-master-wizard

IMHO Trump will crush Hillary when it is one on one. She is terrible at everything Trump is great at, and utterly unfamiliar with dealing with the kind of attack Trump will hit her with.


20 posted on 12/21/2015 4:33:43 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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