Posted on 11/12/2015 10:42:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
He said it last night during the debate, then he said it again this morning on MSNBC â both times in the context of a question about the minimum wage, it should be noted, although I think heâs talking about all wages here. His point is about global competition: If you want to sell goods more cheaply than China, youâre going to have to cut labor costs as part of that. Cutting the wages of the least-skilled workers while letting everyone elseâs rise wonât solve that problem by itself.
Watching him give this answer reminded me of Dave Weigelâs interview with a bunch of Trump supporters in Michigan in mid-August, an effort to piece out what was driving Trumpmania. Was it Trumpâs alpha-male bravado? Sort of. Was it his immigration policy? That certainly figured in. The broader theme, though, was that Trumpâs blue-collar fans took his pledge to âmake America great againâ as a de facto pledge to make American jobs, specifically, great again. Protectionism under President Trump would repatriate jobs that had been outsourced and give American workers a wage that would help them thrive. Now hereâs Trump suddenly warning that if weâre going to beat the Chinese, workers will actually have to tighten their belts â and heâs saying this on camera, twice, in high-profile television formats. In full view of the Democratsâ oppo research people.
Josh Kraushaar wonders what happens now:
Trumpâs politÂicÂal base is domÂinÂated by workÂing-class voters who have been devÂastÂated by the reÂcesÂsion and subÂsequent slow reÂcovÂery. Many of them are drawn to Trump beÂcause they beÂlieve his tough perÂsona and neÂgoÂtiÂatÂing prowess will reÂverse AmerÂicaâs ecoÂnomÂic deÂclineâand with it, raise their own wages. Trump is runÂning against the Wall Street wing of the ReÂpubÂlicÂan Party, but with his afÂfinÂity for low corÂporÂate wages, he pitÂted himÂself against many of the popÂuÂlists heâs wooÂing.
âIf you find someÂbody who can move the Trump imÂage, from bilÂlionÂaire mogul with swagÂger and morph him inÂto a heartÂless CEO jerk, this is a difÂferÂent race,â said ReÂpubÂlicÂan meÂdia conÂsultÂant Rick Wilson. âBut are his voters goÂing to be more reÂceptÂive to his arÂguÂment on imÂmigÂraÂtion than they are on wages. Thatâs the big quesÂtion.â
âOur wages are too highâ is something you can (unfortunately) easily imagine coming out of Romneyâs mouth circa summer 2012, not Trumpâs in 2015. Higher wages is a core reason why his immigration policy is so popular too â kick the illegals out and you eliminate competition from cut-rate off-the-books labor, ensuring a higher wage for citizens. Now here he is suggesting that economic relief from the middle-class crunch might not be what people are expecting even if we do deport all 11 million. What is he thinking? Maybe he thinks workers will let him slide since heâs calling for lower taxes too, i.e. giving them a âraiseâ by letting them keep more of what theyâre already taking home. Or maybe weâve reached the point where heâs so confident in his own invulnerability, having shrugged off one supposedly fatal gaffe after another this year, that he figures this wonât be held against him. Thatâs some bet now that weâre less than three months from Iowa and the attack-ad machines are revving up.
Hereâs the bit from the debate followed by his âMorning Joeâ appearance this a.m. Skip to 7:00 in the second clip for the bit about jobs and wages.
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Good afternoon.
Here is a novel idea (not really), get rid of the Federal minimum wage. Let the states set whatever they want and sit back and watch the economy boom.
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Efficiencies and productivity by definition will require less employee work hours to do the same work. You are trying to separate the two and that makes no sense. In some cases that job will never again need another human to do it, e.g. touchscreen ordering of fast food.
Humans will always want more so there will always be an economy that requires human labor. You would have to speculate on a sci-fi future to imagine any different kind of world. In our world, some jobs will go away permanently and anyone who was doing that job will have to find another line of work.
I think about a lot of things. Thank you.
No, I don’t think every single American can make a high end wage even if we cut all these “welfare” benefits which I support doing.
There are some darn dumb people in this world and in America, God love them, and there is nothing wrong with them doing honorable but lower paying work.
Productivity is a good thing even for those whose labor may be less valuable.
*Having no job is the cruelest ‘wage cut’ of all.*
And it’s the cruelest tax too.
and you know nothing of the lack of work ethic in those people...NOTHING. You’re living in a fantasy bubble where there are millions and millions of honest hardworking but not very smart Americans just wanting to be the best ditch digger they can be......
you’re smoking something.....
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