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1 posted on 10/09/2015 10:34:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Go Cruz!


2 posted on 10/09/2015 10:37:08 AM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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Rubio??? I’ll never vote for him, and I don’t think any conservatives will.

He’s going to have to knock out the other moderates to have a chance, and so far, he hasn’t shown any killer instinct.


3 posted on 10/09/2015 10:40:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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I’ll never vote for the back-stabbing weasel, he burned his bridges to conservatism when he joined the Gang Of Eight and schemed with Schumer against the citizens.

The Cheap Labor Express has already paid the RNC for an amnesty candidate.

¡Yeb! has been honest that he’s a Democrat in an R jersey and his poll numbers reflect that.

Lying Rubio is still trying to bamboozle conservatives.

Anyone with any sense knows he cannot be trusted.


5 posted on 10/09/2015 10:46:48 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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In order to keep his super pacs, Cruz has to do what his handlers tell him to do and when...if not, he looses...

Trump on the other hand, doesn’t have to worry about handlers, and has more money than Cruz...

I won’t vote for Cruz unless he is on a Trump/Cruz ticket, other than that, I think Cruz would be a good Supreme Court Judge...


6 posted on 10/09/2015 10:47:23 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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Yeah it just got to be one on the single digit guys. They, at least, are one of us DC insiders. It cannot possibly be one of those nasty outsiders leading in all the polls! /s


9 posted on 10/09/2015 10:53:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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“MSNBC makes it move.”

You have to give credit where it is due.
The media is trying hard to pick our candidate.


10 posted on 10/09/2015 11:00:57 AM PDT by Lake Living
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“I wouldn’t say literally every center-left pundit I know expects Marco Rubio to win the Republicans’ 2016 presidential nomination, but it’s awfully close to 100%. For most of the political observers I know, it’s practically a foregone conclusion – the pieces have already fallen into place for the far-right Floridian.

Nate Silver recently said, “I sometimes feel with Rubio like he’s the contestant on a reality show where it’s totally obvious that he’s eventually going to win, but the network needs to create dramatic subplots for 17 weeks before it happens.”

Simply delusional. Makes the things Glenn Beck says sound sane.

Apparently Trump polling 1/3 of the Pub voters and everyone else being WAY behind isn’t actually happening on this Earth in this dimension in this galaxy, but is happening on some alternate Earth in some parallel dimension in some other galaxy.


11 posted on 10/09/2015 11:04:45 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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“I wouldn’t say literally every center-left pundit I know expects Marco Rubio to win the Republicans’ 2016 presidential nomination, but it’s awfully close to 100%. For most of the political observers I know, it’s practically a foregone conclusion – the pieces have already fallen into place for the far-right Floridian.”

This smacks so much of the bewildered NYC socialite who wailed that they couldn’t understand how Nixon had won, because no one the socialite knew had voted for Nixon. The left refuses to leave its echo chamber, and as a result comes out with utterly oblivious statements like Rubio (currently polling barely above the single digits) winning the Republican Primary.


13 posted on 10/09/2015 11:11:25 AM PDT by Little Pig
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Cruz is certainly a contender. He continues to raise impressive amounts of money as this article points out he also is best positioned to attract Trump and Carson voters if something deflates them though I’ve come to doubt that is really going to happen. Looking at the polling outside of a few limited outlier polls there’s no evidence that either Trump or Carson are going to give up the top two positions in this race at least not without a major re-shuffling due to candidates dropping out.

The only pathway to Rubio’s success is for Jeb Bush and Kasich to get out of the race. Kasich has cratered in Ohio and Trump and Carson lead there now just as they do every where else that has been polled. If the GOP-E want to remain relevant Rubio is their best shot. However Rubio is unlikely to attract all of Bush and Kasich voters which even when combined in most cases would only eke out a 3rd place in the polling by themselves. The latest national poll even if we combine all of the support for Rubio, Kasich, and Bush they still only manage a 2nd place behind Trump. Even throwing in Christie’s support for good measure Trump still leads them. So this idea that Rubio is some sure thing is naïve at best but honestly he is probably their best bet out of bad options(from their perspective).

I fully expect those candidates with money to remain in the race till the first primary at least. I don’t expect any of the other 1 percenters to break out and rise. They have no money and they have no unique appeal not already covered by the other candidates at the top. Paul and Christie are the most likely to drop out because they really don’t appear to have any steam left financially or politically. Paul will eventually have to make a decision whether he wants to waste his time running for President or keep his Senate seat. I think he will choose his Senate seat rather than waste his political remaining political capital on a Presidential run that is going no where.

The big problem most of the candidates have is they have not learned from Trump and Carson how to manipulate the media. Both Trump and Carson are using the media’s desire to attack them to make themselves stronger. Trump has benefited particularly from getting other candidates to attack him. When they attacked him demanding he be politically correct it hurt them considerably. Rubio is particularly vulnerable if his political capital rises because he will have to go head to head on issues of immigration and a wrong step on his part will doom him because he already has lost a lot of trust where the grassroots is concerned.

I’ll be truly surprised if both Trump and Carson don’t make it to the first primary not in the top 2 spots nationally. Jeb Bush will eventually be forced out of the race. He really has to win New Hampshire to remain credible. However If he insists on continuing on Florida will be his end and possibly for Rubio too. If they don’t win their home state its over for them. Which illustrates the conundrum that Bush supports face. If Bush stays in to Florida in a weakened state all three of the strongest “establishment friendly” candidates Rubio, Kasich, and Bush will be facing possible simultaneous losses in the states where they should be the strongest. If that happens there will not be much left for them to choose from and if Trump and Carson manage to win clear majorities in the Super Tuesday primaries the end result won’t be in doubt.


14 posted on 10/09/2015 11:20:11 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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"….every center-left pundit I know expects Marco Rubio to win……"

I guess that left of center includes Krauthammer and dozens of other "moderate" GOP types.

15 posted on 10/09/2015 11:23:48 AM PDT by moehoward
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Always fun to read just how clueless the left is about GOP electorate.


17 posted on 10/09/2015 11:27:16 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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The Left’s addiction to NLP is truly tedious. They can’t even convince their own followers of their crap anymore, so they don’t even try - it’s all compulsion programming now.


18 posted on 10/09/2015 11:42:43 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I wouldn’t say literally every center-left pundit I know expects Marco Rubio to win the Republicans’ 2016 presidential nomination, but it’s awfully close to 100%. For most of the political observers I know, it’s practically a foregone conclusion – the pieces have already fallen into place for the far-right Floridian.

This guy must not know the same Marco Rubio the rest of us do.

21 posted on 10/09/2015 12:05:09 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Donald Trump: Quality Conservatism Since 2015.")
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Marco Rubio . . . the far-right Floridian.

Rubio is hard right? Really? Only a socialist would think that a pro-Amnesty big government liberal is even slightly right of center in this country. Rubio is unacceptably far to the left.

28 posted on 10/09/2015 3:34:44 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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