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GOP insiders: Jindal and Pataki quit next; Rand Paul’s on the departure list too, insiders predict.
The Politico ^ | September 25, 2015 | Katie Glueck and Kristen Hayford

Posted on 09/25/2015 3:32:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: SaveFerris

There are a few in this race currently that must believe the nomination will be based on seniority not ability to win the general election. Kind of the Rolling Stones of the GOPe reunion tour that never ends.


21 posted on 09/25/2015 3:48:13 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Hehehehe

I keep hoping Karl will leave but then I don’t always get my way. That gasbag has been a problem for a long time. /preaching to the choir


22 posted on 09/25/2015 3:48:16 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Jonty30

I’m a (very minor) Cruz bundler so I’m given scraps of information from time to time. One lady here in Texas has (by herself) raised $1,448,625.71 ... now remember, this isn’t unlimited SuperPAC money. Donors are limited to $2,700 per individual, which makes her accomplishment even more astonishing.


23 posted on 09/25/2015 3:49:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: nclaurel

Somebody told me they think Jebby will get it anyways.

To ensure a loss. I can’t say that’s not possible.

But I do know for sure the GOPe and its candidates have nothing for me. That is why I have absolutely no use for them.


24 posted on 09/25/2015 3:50:04 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’m glad Cruz is in less trouble than I feared. I think the game plan is, because Cruz is brilliant and a real conservative, to slowly expose home to keep him relatable.

He’s very deep, perhaps a bit too deep for the average voter to understand. He will have a bit over a year to explain everything. He needs to generate more interest than he’s currently receiving.


25 posted on 09/25/2015 3:50:35 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

Jonty I don’t disagree with a single syllable of what you said. These are literally uncharted political waters, and I worry about the plan too. But it is the plan, and he is solid to run that plan.

In the past, it would have worked for sure. Today? Not so sure.


26 posted on 09/25/2015 3:52:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots will have to get out now because, contrary to Establishment plans, the Establishment vote is being split, not the conservative vote.

They’re now switching gears and will be leaving Bush to get behind Rubio, who has always been their back-up candidate (Walker was also a possibility but he’s already out).

They’ll be behind Fiorina temporarily since she’s damaged Trump somewhat, but Bush and Rubio are their men. John Huntsman, I mean Kasich is going nowhere. And neither is Huckabee. The voters aren’t fooled by him either.


27 posted on 09/25/2015 3:52:49 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Can’t help but wonder if Graham’s in there to win his home state and throw those votes to Jeb. Same with Christie and Kasich.


28 posted on 09/25/2015 3:54:27 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Can’t help but wonder if Graham’s in there to win his home state and throw those votes to Jeb. Same with Christie and Kasich.

Here's how I see it: It's South Carolina that scares the hell out of the GOP-e. The estabs know that after Newt routed the field by 13 points in 2012 in SC - the nomination was his unless they could get him off track. Newt being Newt - brilliant one minute and puzzling the next - got side tracked in Florida. Had Newt not gotten sidetracked in Florida, he probably wins that state by double digits too, and gets the nomination. The estabs know that SC normally does the opposite of Iowa/New Hampshire, but that Florida often does what SC does. This scares them sh-tless.

And regardless of what people say, it was OVER after Florida. Santorum never worried Mitt really, which is why Mitt's Super PAC funneled money to Santorum's PAC to keep him in the race and keep him attacking Newt.

All of that to say the estabs feared that Cruz could be the one to rout the field in SC originally - and now of course Trump is a huge threat to do that too. They hope enough conservative South Carolinians aren't paying attention and will go for their hometown boy, including the military vote in SC, and that those votes will take away from whoever the outsider in front is at the time.

Not gonna work, but I do think that's the plan....and you're close to nailing it.

29 posted on 09/25/2015 4:02:03 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: grania

My personal belief is that the GOPe uses the perennial candidates to draw support away from viable conservative candidates so that their candidate can win.

There is no other way to explain how candidates, like Santorum, can run viable campaigns otherwise.


30 posted on 09/25/2015 4:03:19 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Weren’t the ‘experts’ predicting that Trump would be the first out, once he finished off his rants?


31 posted on 09/25/2015 4:27:41 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“How long is Linda going to stay around? And is Gilmore still around?”

Linda’s job was to hold down Cruz’s numbers in SC, but that gets complicated with how little Linda himself is liked, and by having Trump in the race (i.e., even Cruz is preferable to Trump for the GOPe...until Trump can be driven from the race, that is).

Gilmore never really ran - no one can figure out his game - perhaps to run as a Third Party in Virginia next November to try to throw the election to Biden (Republicans do things like that in Virginia). But I’m open to other theories.


32 posted on 09/25/2015 4:31:02 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Gilmore to rise from 17th to 13th in just 3 or 4 weeks time? He could be top 10 and in the debates very soon.


33 posted on 09/25/2015 4:31:27 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I agree, Cruz will be around for a while. He seems content to either play a major role should Trump win, or be there to get a good chunk of people should Trump collapse. He’s got resources and unlike Walker and Rubio, he knows how to handle money.


34 posted on 09/25/2015 4:33:21 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: BobL

He probably ran so that he could count on a lot of support when he defends his Senate seat.


35 posted on 09/25/2015 4:35:58 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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I’m glad Cruz is in less trouble (financially) than I feared.

That's the message the media is helping spread. And it does seem to have slowed recent contributions to Cruz' campaign substantially.

Emails from both Ted and his wife indicate they are lagging behind their quarterly projections which they are required to file. Both emails seemed...sincere.
36 posted on 09/25/2015 4:55:26 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: SaveFerris

Something (experience) tells me you are right. But and it is a big one, The Uniparty is in worse trouble than most will admit. Two huge reasons being, If either Trump or Carson is the nominee, Republicans will keep their money in the bank for 2020 and probably vote Democrat. Secret ballot, ya know. If Jeb or any of the GOPe candidates is the nominee, Conservatives keep their money and stay home.

I am starting to thing Cruz may be the only one that might be acceptable to both.


37 posted on 09/25/2015 4:58:18 AM PDT by Tupelo (Trump is no Reagan, but by God he is a fighter.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I voted for Paul in the last race for Senator. I will vote for one of his primary opponents this year.

Actually, I plan on voting against every incumbent this time. It’s long past time to shake them all up.


38 posted on 09/25/2015 5:09:07 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Resettozero

Those email blasts are written by professional fund raisers, not just Ted’s, but all of them. They may or may not have any relationship to the truth.


39 posted on 09/25/2015 5:25:43 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Partaking was running?


40 posted on 09/25/2015 5:27:29 AM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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