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To: wardaddy

“Cruz is loved here no question but he’s still a long shot This ain’t 1980 The demographics are upside down
Youth detest social conservatism Freepers live in a bubble of our own making Walker probably has a better shot
I prefer Cruz ideologically but it will be very uphill and everyone has to turn out”

Well said Wardaddy. I don’t think social issues are going to be a factor in 2016 at least not for most voters.
I believe that’s why the GOP is happy to have Obamacare and gay marriage off the table. I think the confederate flag issue is in that same category.

Cruz has been hovering anywhere from 4-8% in the polls. He hasn’t moved much either way but he’s mostly hung right around 5%.
For a candidate that is supposedly as near perfect as Cruz he doesn’t seem to resonate much with anybody not a Freeper.

You make a great point that it’s not 1980. The states have changed the country has changed and the people have changed.

Youth do detest social conservatism and I don’t think that genie can be put back in the bottle.

Cruz reminds me a lot of Fred Thompson in 2008. I remember how he was going to win in a landslide too.


51 posted on 07/06/2015 10:43:33 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob

[I remember how he was going to win in a landslide too.]

Thompson lost momentum when it was revealed he didn’t attend church.


52 posted on 07/06/2015 10:49:13 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: snarkybob

Republicans stand for nothing but getting elected or reelected

Their main goal in life is to garner media love

This nation is so messed up it will take a catastrophe to turn our direction

We stand for nothing and nobody has the balls to fight back

We are prisoners to minority grievance which is the crux of liberalism today

And they have the numbers

And nearly all the media in far more radical ways than Cronkite could ever envision

And worse.....they own tech and the big Internet orgs as well

Huffpo Huffpo Huffpo

Breitbart and Drudge factor but those who control tech works to exclude them from product....Apple for example

Search engines all lib

I think only war fixes this


54 posted on 07/06/2015 10:52:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (Im in a peter green guitar mood lately......best jewish rock guitarist ever)
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To: snarkybob
Wow, realists on Free Republic!

“Cruz is loved here no question but he’s still a long shot This ain’t 1980 The demographics are upside down.

Youth detest social conservatism Freepers live in a bubble of our own making Walker probably has a better shot I prefer Cruz ideologically but it will be very uphill and everyone has to turn out”

Well said Wardaddy. I don’t think social issues are going to be a factor in 2016 at least not for most voters. I believe that’s why the GOP is happy to have Obamacare and gay marriage off the table. I think the confederate flag issue is in that same category.

Cruz has been hovering anywhere from 4-8% in the polls. He hasn’t moved much either way but he’s mostly hung right around 5%.

For a candidate that is supposedly as near perfect as Cruz he doesn’t seem to resonate much with anybody not a Freeper.

You make a great point that it’s not 1980. The states have changed the country has changed and the people have changed.

Youth do detest social conservatism and I don’t think that genie can be put back in the bottle.

Cruz reminds me a lot of Fred Thompson in 2008. I remember how he was going to win in a landslide too.

Romney won the nomination last time. He was arguably the most liberal GOPer running. The Conservative base my rally around Ted, but I see no sign of anyone else joining them.

Who is the most liberal person running this time -- Jeb? Rubio? Funny those guys are like 1 and 2.

At some point if we don't want them everyone needs to give up on their dream candidate and rally around the top conservative so that we don't end up with a replay of the 2012 scenario.

We don't have to do that now, but we need to do it by South Carolina. And of course sooner would be better.

Right now that person is Scott Walker.

113 posted on 07/07/2015 2:11:29 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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