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To: snarkybob
Wow, realists on Free Republic!

“Cruz is loved here no question but he’s still a long shot This ain’t 1980 The demographics are upside down.

Youth detest social conservatism Freepers live in a bubble of our own making Walker probably has a better shot I prefer Cruz ideologically but it will be very uphill and everyone has to turn out”

Well said Wardaddy. I don’t think social issues are going to be a factor in 2016 at least not for most voters. I believe that’s why the GOP is happy to have Obamacare and gay marriage off the table. I think the confederate flag issue is in that same category.

Cruz has been hovering anywhere from 4-8% in the polls. He hasn’t moved much either way but he’s mostly hung right around 5%.

For a candidate that is supposedly as near perfect as Cruz he doesn’t seem to resonate much with anybody not a Freeper.

You make a great point that it’s not 1980. The states have changed the country has changed and the people have changed.

Youth do detest social conservatism and I don’t think that genie can be put back in the bottle.

Cruz reminds me a lot of Fred Thompson in 2008. I remember how he was going to win in a landslide too.

Romney won the nomination last time. He was arguably the most liberal GOPer running. The Conservative base my rally around Ted, but I see no sign of anyone else joining them.

Who is the most liberal person running this time -- Jeb? Rubio? Funny those guys are like 1 and 2.

At some point if we don't want them everyone needs to give up on their dream candidate and rally around the top conservative so that we don't end up with a replay of the 2012 scenario.

We don't have to do that now, but we need to do it by South Carolina. And of course sooner would be better.

Right now that person is Scott Walker.

113 posted on 07/07/2015 2:11:29 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black

“Who is the most liberal person running this time — Jeb? Rubio? Funny those guys are like 1 and 2.”

Liberalism notwithstanding I think Jeb is doomed by dint of being a Bush. JMHO but it’s too close to GWBs less than triumphant administration.

Walker probably has the next best chance among the professional politicians. A week ago I would have said Rubio but he seems to be losing ground. It could be that he and Jeb are fighting over the same demographic.

Walker has hit a bit of a lull but may make that up when he officially announces.

Under normal circumstances I’d laugh at the thought of Trump as a contender but these aren’t really normal circumstances.
The field is really crowded and the GOP is really divided.

I think, barring some serious lightning striking, the rest are pretty much stuck where they are with no real way to move up.
Santorum, Huckabee, Cruz, if you’re not already for them there’s not anything in their arsenals to get you to be for them. Again, JMHO but those 3 don’t resonate with most people.


115 posted on 07/07/2015 2:35:01 PM PDT by snarkybob
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