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I know this is going to blow a hole in the Internet as FREEPERs explode in anger that I would say what I am saying, but it's true. Rand Paul's brand of libertarianism attracts radical leftists.

Its just does.

1 posted on 06/11/2015 6:18:41 AM PDT by lifeofgrace
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Of course it does.


2 posted on 06/11/2015 6:29:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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> ...as FREEPERs explode in anger that I would say what I am saying...

Content aside, regardless of what you're saying, whether you're right or wrong or otherwise, that's the very definition of trolling. Intentionally provoking a rise out of this crew is like checking your gasoline tank with a match. Best of luck with that. :-)

3 posted on 06/11/2015 6:30:52 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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I can partially see and understand your apprehension in regards to explosive responses, lifeofgrace. Let me ask you this in all seriousness though... So what? So what that he attracts radical leftists? And what I mean is, if it helps the most libertarian candidate running for president with a legitimate chance of winning, why does it matter who elects him? He is running on principles. Principles that allow conservatives to live freely in a conservative way. Our government is far too large and the reason we fear the radical left is because of the size of the government we have grown. It is not about taming the beast by winning the election, it is about shrinking it so that when the enemies of our individual liberties tame the beast, we smile at their new family pet. We need to reduce government until it is no longer the most powerful entity in our society. Anybody that wants to vote for that; welcome aboard!


4 posted on 06/11/2015 6:39:10 AM PDT by simon says what
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Decriminalize controlled substance possession (“very small amounts”). This should be up to the states. It's not in the fedgov's job description.

Allow non-violent felons to vote. Agree, after the sentence has been served and after a waiting period.

Provide for a stringent legal process and “clear and convincing evidence” for forfeiture of assets. Agree completely, I would abolish forfeiture absent proof that the asset in question was received as the proceeds of a crime for which a conviction was achieved.

Allow judges to depart from mandatory minimum sentences (essentially removing those minimums).Agree completely

Create a judicial process to seal adult non-violent criminal records.Not sure I like this, need to look into the pros and cons (no pun intended)).

It appears that I agree with some of his positions and not others. Just like Walker, Rubio, Cruz, Perry, Fiorina, Santorum, Bush, Graham, Carson, Jindal, and Huckabee, all to a greater or lesser extent.

9 posted on 06/11/2015 7:06:46 AM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon (Life's a bitch. Don't elect one.)
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Libertarianism is a milder form of Anarchy, but both wind up with the same results. Chaos, destruction, ruin.

Our current foreign policy is the same as any true libertarian; Isolationism. Isolationism eventually will consume us into the sphere of the most aggressive foreign power.

12 posted on 06/11/2015 7:31:13 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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Rand Paul's brand of libertarianism attracts radical leftists.

Well ... duh! If you go far enough out to the extreme of the spectrum (think of a rainbow) ... you actually reach the other extreme.

14 posted on 06/11/2015 7:40:44 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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It’s not really left or right.

It’s the government vs the individual. The federal government (in the US) was supposed to be the force that protects individual rights. Now government is only concerned with self preservation and the rapacious oppression of the people.

Recreational drug use is mostly counterproductive and harmful to the individual. That being said, the federal government’s approach to enforcement is tyrannical and more harmful to society than the consequences of widespread drug use. The federal “cure” is much worse than the disease. I don’t see the drug problem getting any better with the world’s highest per capita prison rate. I don’t see the DEA and the FBI doing anything positive in this area. I don’t think that the disgusting and shameful police state is worth it. Why can’t states decide and keep the Feds out of it? We will get 50 different approaches to the problem; some will be good and others not so good, but people will be able to decide, not bureaucratic tyrants.

We need accountable decentralized government more than ever. I don’t think that any conscious citizen can trust the Feds to do almost anything right at this point.


18 posted on 06/11/2015 8:23:16 AM PDT by grumpygresh (My real thoughts have been self censored.)
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Oh good- Maybe enough of them vote for him to ensure victory.

Awesome! - like Reagan democrats!


25 posted on 06/11/2015 10:49:30 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Oh good- Maybe enough of them vote for him to ensure victory.

Awesome! - like Reagan democrats!


26 posted on 06/11/2015 10:49:30 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Oh good- Maybe enough of them vote for him to ensure victory.

Awesome! - like Reagan democrats!


27 posted on 06/11/2015 10:49:30 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Rand Paul's brand of libertarianism attracts radical leftists. Its just does.

Finally. A path to get to 51% of the vote or even more.

28 posted on 06/11/2015 10:55:43 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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Don’t know about that, but being very very libertarian minded myself, I know there are limits. And my limit is those that espouse anarcho-capitalism. I hate big government but we do need government. It comes to mind when one is driving their car. You can’t have an environment there where everyone does what they want. We need traffic rules. Many anarcho-capitalists want a nation where there are no police officers, but each household is responsible for their own security. Well, that is just nuts in my book. No one says of course that police cannot be contracted by city governments in a private arrangement. In a sense “privatizing” police forces. That would be a good thing in my opinion, creating accountability.

The whole argument becomes academic though, because we know the ultra libertarian dream is never going to happen. And if I had to recreate the world and was given 2 choices, what we have now or the Libertarian option, I would pick the latter. We are so far the other direction it would be nice just to return to the days of JFK.


73 posted on 06/11/2015 3:13:24 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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