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Rand Paul's Libertarian Crack
sgberman.com ^ | 6/11/15 | Steve Berman

Posted on 06/11/2015 6:18:40 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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To: wagglebee

1) Should each state get to decided whether or not to permit or not permit abortion? — NO, life begins at conception.

2) Do ALL women have the right to abortion? — NO, life begins at conception. In the case of the mother’s life being in danger... truly in danger; she has the right to self defense.

3) Should each state get to decide if same-sex “marriage” is allowed? — Government should not define marriage. Marriage is a contract between individuals.

4) Should America end the War on Terror? — YES, it is a farce. We continue intelligence gathering and intervene to prevent attacks. Wars, however, should be declared by Congress as outlined in the Constitution, and fought to the point of destruction and/or surrender of the enemy.

As far as limited v. small government — WE CURRENTLY HAVE NEITHER. I am for limited government. I will be more precise with the use of those adjectives. We meant the same thing.


41 posted on 06/11/2015 12:58:48 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what

You are not a conservative.


42 posted on 06/11/2015 1:01:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ansel12

Troll?

Yea, if you can’t discuss without labeling and denigrating, you are not a conservative.


43 posted on 06/11/2015 1:01:15 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: trisham

No less conservative than you.


44 posted on 06/11/2015 1:02:55 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what

You couldn’t be more wrong, but then you haven’t been here for eight years, correct?


45 posted on 06/11/2015 1:05:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: simon says what

Why did you totally ignore post 40 and it’s complete rebuttal of your claims, which included Paul’s quote on “thousands of exceptions”, and which asked you to confirm that you think that “gay marriage” is a right?

You are definitely acting and posting like a liberal troll.


46 posted on 06/11/2015 1:05:45 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

And Paul was clear that the “thousands of exceptions” represented that thousands of women’s lives are threatened by a pregnancy every year. He did not mean there were thousands of reasons.


47 posted on 06/11/2015 1:07:01 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what
And Paul was clear that the “thousands of exceptions” represented that thousands of women’s lives are threatened by a pregnancy every year.

You really are a liar.

Read the question.

BLITZER: So, just to be precise, if you believe life begins at conception, which I suspect you do believe that, you would have no exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother, is that right? PAUL: Well, I think that once again puts things in too small of a box. What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions.

48 posted on 06/11/2015 1:10:03 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I am neither. I am not liberal and I am not a troll. I have been a member of Free Republic since 2002. I am not a member of ANY progressive, liberal, democratic, or socialist organization.

I believe in limited government, the absolute god given rights of the individual, and that I don’t need to call someone a name because I disagree with them.


49 posted on 06/11/2015 1:10:10 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what
And Paul was clear that the “thousands of exceptions” represented that thousands of women’s lives are threatened by a pregnancy every year.

You really are a liar.

Read the question.

BLITZER: So, just to be precise, if you believe life begins at conception, which I suspect you do believe that, you would have no exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother, is that right?

PAUL: Well, I think that once again puts things in too small of a box. What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions.

50 posted on 06/11/2015 1:10:52 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: simon says what

Sorry, but it is obvious that you are a liberal, that is why you don’t mind the leftists electing your rino candidate.

You think that “gay marriage” is a right?


51 posted on 06/11/2015 1:13:10 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Now I’m a liar?

You really can’t discuss issues using just your adult words and thoughts, can you? Just have to sink down to the name calling level.

Paul campaign press release after the interview:

By “thousands of exceptions,” Stafford told LifeSiteNews.com, Paul meant that a singular exception to save the life of the mother would likely cover thousands of individual cases – for example, ectopic pregnancies or others that directly threaten the mother’s life.


52 posted on 06/11/2015 1:13:56 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what

You mean the attempt at recovery for Paul’s response when asked about rape and incest.

BLITZER: Well, it sounds like you believe in some exceptions.
PAUL: Well, there’s going to be, like I say, thousands of extraneous situations where the life of the mother is involved and other things that are involved.


“The thing is about abortion—and about a lot of things—is that I think people get tied up in all these details of, sort of, you’re this or this or that, or you’re hard and fast (on) one thing or the other,” Paul told Elliott. “I’ve supported both bills with and without (exceptions), you know. In general, I am pro-life.”

So simon, you think that “gay marriage” is a right?


53 posted on 06/11/2015 1:19:33 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: simon says what; trisham

Let’s just say that, if you are a conservative, then you are a master of disguise.


54 posted on 06/11/2015 1:29:14 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I don’t mean an attempt to recover from anything. It is his stated position. If you would like to take one interview out of context from his stated position on both his campaign website and in other interviews, that’s on you.

I don’t believe any marriage is a right. Freedom of association is a right. If two consenting adults wish to enter into a contractual agreement, who am I or the government to stand in their way?

My personal definition of marriage as it would apply to my life and what I am referring to when I say marriage is: one man, one woman.

Answered your questions, responded to your posts.

Are you ok with the erosion of our individual rights and liberties by the past several administrations? Why are the issues you have raised more important to you than mass surveillance of citizens by the NSA or the continuing attempts to restrict our 1st and 2nd amendment rights?


55 posted on 06/11/2015 1:31:38 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: ansel12

No let’s not just say. I have said... I AM A CONSERVATIVE. I am not disguising anything and I have answered questions as to what I believe. You have simply called me names.


56 posted on 06/11/2015 1:36:05 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what
Gay marriage. So because he believes that you should lead your life, I should lead my life, and others should lead their lives, all as we see fit; you prefer other candidates that support routine government violations of our rights?

 

This right here. This is you crossing the line. Spout all the pro-Paul nonsense you want. But when it comes to endorsing queer marriages - IBTZ.

57 posted on 06/11/2015 1:38:49 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: simon says what

No, I quoted his position, and showed that he has revealed it in other interviews, you said something about damage repair from one of his campaign people.

Do you oppose gay marriage, and disagree with Paul on his abortion and gay marriage support?

How about his cutting the military, and his war against social conservatives?

It is very odd that in your 13 years here, this is the first time that anyone has ever come close to getting you to reveal anything about these all important conservative issues.

It’s odd that you have never displayed any real conservatism in 13 years, and still aren’t.


58 posted on 06/11/2015 1:41:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

:)


59 posted on 06/11/2015 1:49:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ansel12

Odd, odd, odd... name calling, name calling, name calling.

I did not realize there was some minimum requirement for posts in order to actually have a viewpoint on an article about a candidate for President.

Do you actually ever state what you believe? Is there a reason you will not answer my questions?

It is a clear sign that you do not have a message when all you can do is attack the opposing messenger.


60 posted on 06/11/2015 2:04:34 PM PDT by simon says what
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