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Rand Paul's Libertarian Crack
sgberman.com ^ | 6/11/15 | Steve Berman

Posted on 06/11/2015 6:18:40 AM PDT by lifeofgrace

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To: cripplecreek

Ted Cruz supports TPA, TPP, the Freedom act, Rand Paul doesn’t. Rand may be an immigration squish, but so is Cruz with his h1b1 stance. Why again should conservatives be voting for Cruz?


61 posted on 06/11/2015 2:09:24 PM PDT by z taxman
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To: lifeofgrace

I certainly don’t consider hyperbolic extrapolation of constitutional ideas into pro -drugs, pro -crime positions as fact. Paul takes some positions that could be exploited. Not the same thing as saying he intends to exploit them.


62 posted on 06/11/2015 2:10:22 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: simon says what

Don’t ignore the post.

I quoted his position, and showed that he has revealed it in other interviews, you said something about damage repair from one of his campaign people.

Do you oppose gay marriage, and disagree with Paul on his abortion and gay marriage support?

How about his cutting the military, and his war against social conservatives?

It is very odd that in your 13 years here, this is the first time that anyone has ever come close to getting you to reveal anything about these all important conservative issues.

It’s odd that you have never displayed any real conservatism in 13 years, and still aren’t.


63 posted on 06/11/2015 2:11:04 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: z taxman

Because Paul has a mouthful of Sharpton.


64 posted on 06/11/2015 2:11:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: ansel12

These are the same things you have posted in your other posts. I did not ignore any of them. I ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE ONE. I have not ignored anything.

You on the other hand have failed to answer ANY of my questions. Would you like to try again?

Are you ok with the erosion of our individual rights and liberties by the past several administrations? Why are the issues you have raised more important to you than mass surveillance of citizens by the NSA or the continuing attempts to restrict our 1st and 2nd amendment rights?


65 posted on 06/11/2015 2:15:44 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: cripplecreek
He bases his stance on the false premise that there are millions of blacks in prison for minor drug offenses due to racist laws.

You may have some premises of your own working mightily there.

But does his argument really rest on the premise that the laws are racist?

Maybe he just doesn't think that the way the laws work out is just, or maybe he doesn't think that long-term denial of voting rights is good policy.

66 posted on 06/11/2015 2:18:34 PM PDT by x
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To: simon says what

No, you are a dishonest poster who doesn’t say anything really, it is why your bare, 13 year history, is practically nonexistent, and there is almost no mention of any political or conservative issues or politics, or politicians, or elections in it.

Except for some gold, and stock market, and oil, money issues, your posting history shows a total lack of interest in politics, elections, and conservatism, and then after 8 years, you show up today to tell us that leftists preferring and electing Rand Paul is great, as long as you get a libertarian as president.


67 posted on 06/11/2015 2:21:16 PM PDT by ansel12
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Voting rights are up to the states.

I know, I’m a former felon who legally votes in my state.

If you want to waste the next 20 months pretending Rand Paul will be president, go right on ahead, just don’t waste mine.


68 posted on 06/11/2015 2:22:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

Paul’s voting record is stellar. He is talking about getting rid of mandatory minimums, reducing drug related sentences and restoring voting rights. If he wants to couch these arguments in a way that appeals to lib minorities good.


69 posted on 06/11/2015 2:29:06 PM PDT by z taxman
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To: ansel12

Again attacking the messenger because you don’t have a message.

Please point to the section or TOS for Free Republic that states a member must post a minimum number of times every year.

YES. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING OUR NATION IS THE OUT OF CONTROL GOVERNMENT.

There is nothing I have said that is dishonest. I have been open and responded to every question you have had in an attempt to have dialogue. You run and hide behind name calling. I have been transparent and honest.

YOU HAVE BEEN NEITHER!


70 posted on 06/11/2015 2:31:19 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: simon says what; wagglebee

LOL, yep, simon is a troll sleeper account.


71 posted on 06/11/2015 2:39:33 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Still name calling? Still not posting any actual conservative values or thoughts? Still not able to act as an adult?

I am not a troll. I have no urge to troll. Our government has too much power. We are losing our nation; we are losing the country that is the home of the free and the brave.

Does this not concern you? Who is trolling who here?


72 posted on 06/11/2015 2:51:30 PM PDT by simon says what
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To: lifeofgrace

Don’t know about that, but being very very libertarian minded myself, I know there are limits. And my limit is those that espouse anarcho-capitalism. I hate big government but we do need government. It comes to mind when one is driving their car. You can’t have an environment there where everyone does what they want. We need traffic rules. Many anarcho-capitalists want a nation where there are no police officers, but each household is responsible for their own security. Well, that is just nuts in my book. No one says of course that police cannot be contracted by city governments in a private arrangement. In a sense “privatizing” police forces. That would be a good thing in my opinion, creating accountability.

The whole argument becomes academic though, because we know the ultra libertarian dream is never going to happen. And if I had to recreate the world and was given 2 choices, what we have now or the Libertarian option, I would pick the latter. We are so far the other direction it would be nice just to return to the days of JFK.


73 posted on 06/11/2015 3:13:24 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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