I bring you the source of the discredited lie and you punt. That's not a debate.
I'll quote you on this very thread,,
Be more realistic, honest and logical, and we can have a civil debate.
I want "you" to be more Realistic, Honest, and Logical.
Read your previous posts in this thread. They are not civil. You call other posters derogatory names. Obviously you were not raised properly. You have flunked my test of civility. I do not discourse with rude and uncivil posters. Good bye.