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To: INVAR; dware; 2ndDivisionVet
- Okay, then why are you here?

-- To Promote Conservatism and our Christian heritage, not Establishment party politics and to share my thoughts as a Watchman on the wall.

I've been called a demagogue for asking others why they are here because they all have negatives to offer - they will tell us what they will not do, but do not have any cogent idea of a positive action that would actually help us foster a more conservative government.

I admit to some demagoguery because I decided that it might be useful to stir the pot to see if there any real thoughts or game[plans out there. I keep getting vague responses - many similar to Nancy Pelosi telling us that we had to pass the bill to find out what was in it. They claim they have a real plan that can work, then intimate that it is best served by only discussing it with those "bet able to understand it". I call them charlatans.

It would be really nice for folks here to share what they think is a workable plan - else all we are is a bunch of self-professed conservatives that do a better job at demoralizing the whole than any Dim plant could ever do.

26 posted on 12/30/2014 3:44:26 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb; 2ndDivisionVet; All
It would be really nice for folks here to share what they think is a workable plan ...

You are fibbing to yourself. What you really mean is that it would be really nice for folks here to share what YOU think is a workable plan.

I already know what the ONLY workable alternative will be in 2016 in the extremely likely scenario that the GOPe nominates another functional Democrat Republican.

YOU just don't think it's workable.

The hard cold truth is that when you vote for left-leaning Republicans, you make leftism stronger IN BOTH PARTIES. The ONLY WAY any individual American has to weaken leftism at the ballot box and in government is to refuse to vote for it.

That is the ONLY alternative. Voting for the Republican "no matter what because it's bound to be better than the Democrat," as I did for more than 30 years and as my mom did for sixty years, is a proven failure. Witness 2012, the apex configuration (so far!) of such failure's results. My mom, I, and millions of others have finally woken up to that fact. The SOLE alternative is to refuse to play a loser's game. The SOLE alternative is to deprive leftists of either party of our votes.

28 posted on 12/30/2014 9:58:58 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: trebb
I've been called a demagogue for asking others why they are here because they all have negatives to offer - they will tell us what they will not do, but do not have any cogent idea of a positive action that would actually help us foster a more conservative government.

At this stage, given history's lessons and our Founders' warnings - unless this nations falls on it's face in repentance, does a 180 in behavior and girds itself for a long, arduous, bloody fight to establish new guards for our happiness, safety and security - then fostering a more Conservative government is just the realm of fantasy.

The Colonists were wise enough to recognize they were suffering the tyranny of the Crown because of their collective sins as a people. The 1760s were filled with sermons imploring repentance, and no wonder, since the fires of Independence and liberty were first declared and fought in their pulpits more than a decade before Lexington and Concord.

You asked for a 'workable plan'. Well, it's not going to happen at the ballot box or from the Parties now ruling us.

I find no example in history that the kind of meddlesome tyranny and fundamental transformation agenda we are suffering can be overcome via civil means. Corruption and oligarchy at all levels makes that an impossibility.

If we would be free men, and we would want our inalienable rights restored to what they should be, then we are going to have to fight for them. A tyranny is never going to relent power to those they rule and seek to subjugate.

As Jefferson acknowledged Liberty is a gift from God, the fact of our current situation is because a people who are not governed by God, will be ruled by the tyranny of men.

A 'workable plan' must first begin by returning this people to a religious and moral people, for only such a people are fit for liberty, and our Constitution was made only for such people. Self governing under the Supreme Governor of the Universe.

That job has to happen in the church, and by a people who will not tire of saying to anyone and everyone "This is the way, walk in it". Thusfar a majority of Churches are not interested in even considering doing what the churches did in the 1750s-60's during the First Great Awakening. A testament to the lukewarm condition Christianity finds itself in.

Even Franklin noted that when societies grow corrupt and vicious, they will have more masters and tyrants placed upon them.

Here we are.

29 posted on 12/30/2014 10:02:37 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: trebb
It would be really nice for folks here to share what they think is a workable plan

Here's my plan:

1. Stop voting for traitorous, back stabbing R's, simply because they have an "R" next to their name

2. Every payday, buy at least 1 box of ammo for each of my firearms

3. Every payday, add a bucket or bag of food stuffs and staples to my closet

4. Pray, wait, and take a firm stand when called upon to do so.

That's the plan. That's all we can do at this point.

31 posted on 12/30/2014 11:10:01 AM PST by dware ("White Privilege" stems from one's ability to lace up work boots and read a work schedule)
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