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To: Netz; 2ndDivisionVet; PA Engineer; lowbridge; MeshugeMikey; Bluestocking; Ooh-Ah; KC_Lion; ...
In RAT’S eyes, a Republican is a cigar-chomping, unfeeling, cold-hearted, Capitalist exploiter (with a black top hat) of the “common man” who’s octopus tentacles are connected to the Trusts and the Military Industrial Complex.

This is a very strong image to alter in the minds of the public. Of course we have to have a healthy skepticism about the role of government but Republicans are ALWAYS portrayed in this light.Vietnam only solidified this image and today’s boomers still carry the bitter taste of Republicans filtered through CBS’ Walter Conkrite (and I loved the guy).

How EVIL MacNamara, Nixon, Kissinger, Westmorland, Ford, the Bush’s, Palin and Romney and ANY Republican can be.

In short, Republicans are greedy warmongers while DemocRATS are for the common man. It doesn’t look like it’s going to change anytime soon.

These and similar stereotype images and myths which defy history and reason, yet are nonetheless commonly held by the Jewish Left, are every bit as pernicious and outrageous, if not more so, than the common stereotypes and images of Jews held by lowlife anti-Semites!

Naturally, few within that same Jewish Left would ever bring up the lousy record of Franklin D. Roosevelt and his Administration with respect to the Jews in Nazi occupied Europe. No, this despite the large number who reportedly responded to the Pew(k) poll claiming that the Nazi Holocaust is the most important single factor defining their Jewish identity.

There's also quite a cognitive dissonance between the Jewish Left's purported identification with the Holocaust as Jews and their support for an even larger government in the US, despite the fact that Nazi Germany epitomized the evil of the Leviathan state, a government that had no limits in what it could do.

Haven't got a chance to review this Pew(k) poll in its entirety yet, but any evaluation of it must take into account that Pew(k) is a left-leaning organization and the posted article reviewing this Pew(k) poll comes out of even a more left-leaning Brit media entity, The Guardian. So a healthy dose of skepticism is advised in scrutinizing the methodology and results.

Specifically, I find it extremely difficult to believe that the percentage of Jews identifying as 'Rats hasn't significantly decreased in the Age of Obama, which this Pew(k) Poll seems to be telling us.

57 posted on 10/03/2013 3:01:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Well, I’ll wade into it. My best answer is “Group Think.” Its like asking why Blacks in America consistently vote Democrat when they are being really systematically exterminated by those same people? Its hard to explain but it comes in the form of peer group pressure, the impossibility of having a civil conversation, and the almost unified reliance on MSM and NPR for news. You get lots of people systematically mislead that you just can’t set straight. Does that make any sense?

I live this every day, greeting, loving and being with Liberals who you just can’t tell the truth or you will be hounded and ostracized. I never quite understood this until I started studying Crowdsourcing. And it turns out.. groups are maintained by “conformity police.” The left has infiltrated the Jewish community and the further they from Orthodox the easier it is to get them to buy into the lies that these people are spreading. This is because of guilt. Jews who are at all religious and not orthodox feel a sense of guilt about not keeping to the law. Even when what has been settled by the Rabbi’s of 1400 - 1800 years ago is just non-functional in 2013...

Talmud is a blessing and a curse. The oral law was never to be recorded and then it was. The oral law is the “How-to” implementing code for following the Commandments in Torah. IF this how-to mismatches reality, you get craziness. If you suspend the how-to by refusing any how-to you get what happened to the Karaites who just tried to follow the law as it is written and ended up sitting in the cold and the dark every Saturday among other problems. There is still a community of Jews who hold to this though as they are deeply suspicious of the Rabbis who wrote the Talmud.

Opposite of the Karaites is the Conservative/Reform/Liberal Judaism movements. These movements represent the still religious (non-secular) Jewish community and they rejected Talmud almost whole cloth in the 1800’s and the Conservative and Reform movements have slowly been walking back.

You have to put this in context. In the early 1800’s a theory called Higher Criticism was formed that showed pretty definitively that 4 distinct sources could be teased out of the text of the first 5 books of the Bible (Torah). This was kind of meant to hurt the Jewish community and it destroyed it in many ways.. but it has come to bite the Christian community just as hard. This co-incided with the age of the “Enlightenment” where “Scientism” started replacing faith in God as the ultimate source of truth and value for the elite and the educated.

We saw the rise of Spinoza’s rejection of God and the variations of Atheism and the rise of “faux” Judaism in the form of Communism. Communism replaces God with Mankind as a community and substitutes the achievement of a perfect society of the “proletariat” for the Messianic age. Much of philosophy and science have been bent toward this goal, regardless of whether the people working this call themselves Communists or not. At the front end, these social minded reformers made the lives of the beneficiaries of their programs lives better but just as we see, ultimately, Communism is implemented by tyrants who think they know better than the masses and end up deciding to kill anyone who opposes them and that gets to be one pile of people as their suffering grows. And, in spite of what ever they call this faith, Progressivism, Liberalism, Socialism, Environmentalism it keeps gaining believers and delivering misery for humans.

But, this is the issue with “faux.” or fake. Because the Bible teaches these lessons too, being kind to the stranger, providing for the sick and the needy, making sure they are treated with dignity and the same as any other person. So, certain individuals have attached themselves to the religious community and overlaid the goals of Communism/Socialism with the Biblical messages from Torah and by insisting that God is just a “concept” are able to walk away from the moral clarity of actually believing in God. They instead substitute working for “Social Justice” which isn’t at all what Torah teaches about Justice, and “Tikkun Olam” repairing the word, when they don’t have a clue just exactly what that means except, more social justice which translates into supporting the leader’s schemes to create a socialist utopia.

SO, as a group, Jews in America except for some of the Orthodox are deeply misled and working against their own interests and no one can tell them different. But, doesn’t that describe about 50% of all Americans?????


65 posted on 10/03/2013 6:49:24 PM PDT by dalight
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To: justiceseeker93

I agree that there is cognative dissonance on the part of the Jews. Their reaction began way before Roosevelt, before the turn of the century. It is hard to conceive, now, how ferocious, scary, all-pervasive and overt anti-Semitism was then. The Dems pretended to be slightly welcoming, whereas the Republicans didn’t bother. The mass of Jewish immigrants at the end of the 19th century were impoverished working class people. They still identify with that scenario.


69 posted on 10/04/2013 12:03:35 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: justiceseeker93

I agree that there is cognative dissonance on the part of the Jews. Their reaction began way before Roosevelt, before the turn of the century. It is hard to conceive, now, how ferocious, scary, all-pervasive and overt anti-Semitism was then. The Dems pretended to be slightly welcoming, whereas the Republicans didn’t bother. The mass of Jewish immigrants at the end of the 19th century were impoverished working class people. They still identify with that scenario.


70 posted on 10/04/2013 12:03:35 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: justiceseeker93

Yes. The fat Capitalist, brought to you by Sergei Eisenstein and the rest of the gang at SOVKINO. (You can watch STRIKE on Youtube. It is possibly one of the finest movies ever made.)


75 posted on 10/04/2013 7:36:59 AM PDT by golux
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To: Netz; justiceseeker93
In RAT’S eyes, a Republican is a cigar-chomping, unfeeling, cold-hearted, Capitalist exploiter (with a black top hat) of the “common man” who’s octopus tentacles are connected to the Trusts and the Military Industrial Complex.

Funny . . . that's exactly how anti-Semites see the "World Zionist Conspiracy!"

78 posted on 10/04/2013 8:04:12 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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