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Poll: Republicans embracing libertarian priorities
Politico ^ | 9/11/13 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 09/11/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by wmfights

Two-thirds of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said they want their member of Congress to “keep their promises and stick to principles” as opposed to “compromise in a bipartisan way to get things done.”

“From Obamacare on down, sticking to principle is where the Republican base is today,” said David Kirby, vice president of opinion research at FreedomWorks. “It’s an example of how off the Republican establishment is from their base.”

Social issues have become less salient to GOP voters: 41 percent said gay marriage is not one of their top 10 issues. Asked about abortion, about one-third said it is one of the top three issues they care about; another third said it is not in the top three but somewhere in the top 10 and the final third said it is not one of their top 10 concerns.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/poll-republicans-libertarian-96576.html#ixzz2ecUQmr3o

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To: Arrowhead1952

>> He is pro gay, pro abortion, somewhat anti gun rights, nanny state closet liberal.

Sounds like he’d fit well in the anus of the Libertarian Party where a lot of other libs and anarchists enjoy circulating.

Any “libertarian” that is pro-kill is not a libertarian.


121 posted on 09/11/2013 5:43:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Orangedog

yet the same Govt is forcing us to accept their homo perversion, drugs etc

Last I checked this site is pro family, ;Last I checked we have freedom of religion. , last I checked liberaltarians have more in common with liberals minus taxes


122 posted on 09/11/2013 5:44:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Responsibility2nd

they harp about freedom from Govt and yet it is Govt forcing us to accept their communist agenda.

All liberaltarians want is anarchy and no laws, some for their perversion some because they care only about themselves.


123 posted on 09/11/2013 5:47:27 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Kip Russell

changes because some want it to change and look at the crap we have today because of liberal, communist liberaltarian policies.

Yea we’re doing frigging fine arn;t we, SARC


124 posted on 09/11/2013 5:49:37 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Oliviaforever

EXACTLY.

Just because some want to get high, drink and drive, have sex with little 14 year old girls and have no laws for anything does not mean I or my family should change.

The founders said and gave us freedom of religion , something the left including liberaltarians hate.

Now people are being sued, businesses destroyed and boycotted due to their sick twisted agenda.


125 posted on 09/11/2013 5:52:01 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rwfromkansas

>> How many liberaltarians have been banned on here for pushing their liberal agenda

I’m dubious about govt control of narcotics as far as it concerns the adult demo. I’m not interested in its availability, but question the cost, corruption, policing, and bureaucracy. Regarding morality, the govt is making it worse, so I don’t see a problem relinquishing that “responsibility” from the freaks in DC.

The Libertarian Party is about establishing law to permit things that should otherwise succumb to its own weight.

Small govt is the answer.


126 posted on 09/11/2013 5:57:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kip Russell

>> Times change, and so do societal values.

You’re not saying anything.


127 posted on 09/11/2013 5:58:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
I don't see in my Constitution where the federal government was given powers to control drugs at all. That's a state police powers issue, like most issues the feds have overstepped into.

Put the feds back in the constitutional box.

/johnny

128 posted on 09/11/2013 6:02:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: wmfights

Ignore? This is what libertarians ABHOR!

The (L) would NEVER let this, let alone condone, type of behavior of the gov’t like the (R).


129 posted on 09/11/2013 6:08:28 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I agree with the caveat there must be common sense, federal level protection for those that are not functioning adults.


130 posted on 09/11/2013 6:13:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: i_robot73

Only a few can make a coherent argument against libertarianism. Most others spout ignorance.


131 posted on 09/11/2013 6:17:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: wmfights; P-Marlowe
A slight majority, 52 percent, said government should not promote any particular set of values,

1. It is impossible to have "no values".

2. Governments always ends up enforcing the values that it holds.

3. Enforcing neutrality is a purge.

132 posted on 09/11/2013 6:17:50 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Gene Eric
Not a federal power. Police powers, including protecting non-functioning adults, are state powers. Laws against murder are properly a state police power, not federal.

/johnny

133 posted on 09/11/2013 6:20:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

There should be a uniform, minimum age of consent which can be the same minimum age requirement for military service. I agree otherwise.


134 posted on 09/11/2013 6:28:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Nextrush

Here here, I couldn’t agree more.


135 posted on 09/11/2013 6:30:50 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: wmfights
Abandoning the moral truth on the “Social Issues” (read: abortion and homosexuality), abandoning the US military (raiding its budget time and time again while allowing the institution to twist in the wind), and taking a wishy washy attitude towards Israel. Wow.....What great stuff this Libertarian thing is.
136 posted on 09/11/2013 6:37:51 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ask a “Libertarian” if his Social Security or Medicare should be cut, and suddenly, you will get a whole new philosophical 3 card Monty presentation about what Big Government is “good”, and what Big Government is “bad.”


137 posted on 09/11/2013 6:42:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: wmfights
Social issues have become less salient to GOP voters: 41 percent said gay marriage is not one of their top 10 issues.

Which presumably means that 59 percent say it is. So try again.

Asked about abortion, about one-third said it is one of the top three issues they care about;

And if one out of every three people you meet on the street told you they wanted to burn your house to the ground, would you listen? Only in the Republican Party would they not. And they're about to lose their house.

Moral of the story: polls can be made to say whatever you want them to say. The core of the Republican Party remains evangelicals and evangelical Christians. When they leave, the Republican Party dies. Simple as that.

138 posted on 09/11/2013 6:43:10 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And here you summed up the problem with Conservatives vs. (L).

(L) want to return to a A1S8 gov’t. (C) on the other hand have moving goals, all (OK, most, IMHO) abhorrent to the Constitution.

You said you just want to return to pre-LBJ. That presumes you’re humky-dorey w/ the FDR New Deal?

No? How about the Progressive Movement of Woodrow Wilson?

Damn....How about ol’ Teddy’s Progressiveness?

Where does (C) begin? With the (L) Party, it begins and ends w/ A1S8....pure and simple.

See, (L) are, and have been, quite rock-steady in their beliefs. For Citizens of able body and mind (see, here is where CHILDREN are excluded....being wards of their parents and/or State, and under the age of consent) where no Rights nor Liberties are denied to any other party unknowingly or unwillingly, gov’t (and their nanny state enablers) should but the F* out.

I think Pen (of Pen and Teller) summed it up the best (and I’m paraphrasing here): I’m a (L) because I’m smart enough to known I don’t have all the answers to FORCE rules upon anyone else to live by


139 posted on 09/11/2013 6:45:07 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: manc
and yet even back with the pilgrims judges , yes the Govt married people, now we have justice of the peace.

Any other pre-constitution era you would like to cite?

Liberaltarians want no laws while paying no taxes, they want incest laws to be gone, for their dirty perverted agenda. Sell drugs next to schools, prostitutes outside schools, no drinking and driving laws, no sex age laws so the old men can have sex with little 12 year old girls. Inject heroin in public in front of a family.

You forgot the part about drinking the blood of babies and clubbing seals in your disappointing attempt at character assassination.

First amendment, freedom of religion, something liberals hate.

Then go find a liberal to bitch at. I'm all for you to be free to worship however you choose.

140 posted on 09/11/2013 6:48:27 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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