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1 posted on 03/31/2013 10:26:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Liberals go to the Church of the Stinky Donut Hole...


28 posted on 04/01/2013 3:33:18 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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that "the Republican Party can afford to marginalize . . . Christian right leaders because evangelical social conservatives . . . are not going to vote Democratic."

That was the calculation they made with Romney and lost badly. Christian evangelicals won't vote for Democrats, but they won't vote for socially liberal Republicans either...they'll just stay home like last time. Same result---Rat win.

30 posted on 04/01/2013 4:20:37 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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I think that people like Cruz and Palin will not let them.
Or the party may just have to split into the RINO Party and the Constitutional Republican Party - I just don't see traditional conservatives with any balls agreeing to "go along to get along".
31 posted on 04/01/2013 4:29:55 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Socially liberal atheist society are NEVER fiscally conservative. It is ridiculous to de-couple the social from the fiscal. The leftist are TRYING to produce a form of heaven on earth, play God so to speak. And that is a very expensive undertaking.


32 posted on 04/01/2013 4:36:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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I meant to say: “Socially liberal atheistic societies are NEVER fiscally conservative.”


33 posted on 04/01/2013 4:39:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Party leaders want “liberal-lite”, conservatives want Reagan. So far, “liberal-lite” has lost two big ones in a row.


34 posted on 04/01/2013 4:47:21 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


36 posted on 04/01/2013 5:18:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Separate school and state, before it's too late!)
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Should they dump what forms the foundation of a good, free and moral society?

Only if they want complete disaster and defeat....


37 posted on 04/01/2013 5:24:18 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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I say we should encourage them to go full Left so they can become part of the Dim Party and we can start a new one - the Conservative Independent Party.


38 posted on 04/01/2013 5:31:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, IÂ’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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No evangelical I know of will vote for a Clinton.

However, plenty of evangelicals I know of have had it up to their back teeth with moderate to liberal Republican candidates and are ready to find, or support, a party which will embrace them. And no, it’s not Democrats.


39 posted on 04/01/2013 5:33:19 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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Around 1978 or so a senior level economic adviser to Margaret Thatcher spoke at my university (Southern Baptist school). He said the ease and willingness with which Americans were retiring their elderly parents to nursing homes at the expense of the state rather than bringing them into their own homes and caring for them there was a moral failing.

My Southern Baptist friends recoiled at the idea as real sin seemed to be wrapped up in drinking, smoking, cussing and illicit sex.

Food for thought???

40 posted on 04/01/2013 6:04:34 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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They appear to be in the process of doing so. And if they do, I just stay home. There is no point in choosing between Democrats and Democrats who have Rs next to their name, contrary to what the GOP-E shills who post here think.


41 posted on 04/01/2013 6:21:11 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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More correctly, should conservatives dump the GOPee run by elite Beltway RINOs and RINO consultants? One word: YES. These Quislings have sold out Americans to the socialists and Marxists for far too long. Time for a purge.
44 posted on 04/01/2013 7:56:21 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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Yes. I'm sick of this issue. It's not the point. It seems that every five minutes another pundit comes out with this advice, and then we end up with nominees like McCain and Romney, who are the worst imaginable from any perspective. As long as our primary system remains open in any state, we are not going to get the nominees that we want.

We have to fundamentally change the Republican primary process or we will continue to lose.

45 posted on 04/01/2013 8:06:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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If the GOP could get the economy right, and the size of government right, they wouldn’t have to worry about social issues.


49 posted on 04/01/2013 2:10:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Sure, they should also support amnesty and gun confiscation. This will speed up the dissolution of the United States of America and I can live in a free country again. Probably named Texas.


52 posted on 04/01/2013 5:32:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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The GOP is dead to me.
It’s new party time.


54 posted on 04/01/2013 5:40:44 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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Focusing on economic issues is a loser because the majority of Americans want the government to give them free stuff. That’s why focusing on social issues is in fact the only way Republicans will ever win.


66 posted on 04/01/2013 11:17:43 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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My comment is that I voted for Tim Walberg so he can be Tim Walberg, not Arlen Specter, nor Mike Huckabee for that matter.


70 posted on 04/02/2013 7:57:07 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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Yeah, let’s turn our backs to nascent life, and moralize how the vulva is no different than the anus. Life would be so much easier with blood and crap on our hands.


77 posted on 04/02/2013 7:40:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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