[little jeremiah]

IMHO when economic collapase accelerates (and the welfare/funny money cannot continute forever), there will be a die off and those who do not want to participate in the die off will have to start working and taking responsibility for themselves and families.

Learn now, or learn the very, very hard way in a little while. Those are the two choices.

[familyop]

"IMHO when economic collapase accelerates (and the welfare/funny money cannot continute forever), there will be a die off and those who do not want to participate in the die off will have to start working and taking responsibility for themselves and families.

Learn now, or learn the very, very hard way in a little while. Those are the two choices."

Very well said, as usual, LJ. To learn real, hands-on, varied technical skills and related safety habits takes time, as does simply getting accustomed to uncomfortable working conditions (about 2 years for a healthy individual, IMO--see cartilage and bones, joints, Asian practices).

We (as American people) don't even need to drill no holes in no stinking western buttons (see inner strap ties on wrapped clothing, outer belts, frog buttons, etc.). We could be going in the new style. ;-)