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To: trisham
That was needlessly cruel.

I am genuinely sorry that it came across that way. I didn't want to be needlessly cruel.

However, the situation is a little bit difficult. MamaTexan is here representing herself as someone who understands this issue. She has been presenting herself as something of an expert. She has been painting those of us who recognize that the historical understanding of "natural born citizen" is, legally and historically, the correct one, as either idiots or worse.

People who pose as experts to insist on wrong interpretations of the Constitution are not doing conservatives, or even themselves, any favors. This is particularly true when they would urge us to abandon good candidates who might lead us to a conservative victory, even a conservative renaissance, in the future. It's not just Ted Cruz. It's not necessarily just Marco Rubio, or Bobby Jindal, or Nikki Haley. We may have other rising stars in the future, in 2016, or 2020, who are perfectly well eligible to be elected President, whose candidacies could be negatively impacted by a false perception that they are not eligible.

You can be sure that liberals will have no such false limitation on them. They've already successfully run a candidate who clearly did not have two citizen parents at birth.

Mama Texan has said that if Ted Cruz should run for President, she would not vote for him. So imagine a lineup in which Ted Cruz faces someone like Obama. Mama Texan apparently believes that the "right" thing to do is stay home from the polls and not support a candidate like Cruz.

And she believes other people should do this as well.

In a close election (and most of them are close these days), that could cost us the Presidency. And we really cannot afford another 4 years of somebody like Obama. We can't afford the next 4 years, or even the 4 years with him that we've already had.

So I am genuinely sorry that that came across as needlessly cruel. At the same time, I think this is a pretty important issue.

294 posted on 03/19/2013 4:15:53 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
It is an important issue, but do we really want to have two classes of people here on this site, or in this country? Those who are deemed qualified to express an opinion and those who are not?

Do you believe in freedom of speech? Do you believe in the validity of your argument? If you do, then I would think that you might have confidence in it, and perhaps realize that in responding as you did, you might have turned away more than you might have convinced, by treating as you did someone who disagreed with you.

295 posted on 03/19/2013 4:22:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jeff Winston
So imagine a lineup in which Ted Cruz faces someone like Obama. Mama Texan apparently believes that the "right" thing to do is stay home from the polls and not support a candidate like Cruz.

Well Bless your heart.

Do please show me where I said anything about 'staying home from the polls'.

OR where I claimed to be any kind of expert

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I'm here for knowledge, Jeff. NOT YOUR interpretation, not YOUR rationalizations, not your unsubstantiated textual assaults where you do nothing more that arrogantly INSTRUCT people in the error of their ways and pompously insult them when they disagree.

Rational debates are a give and take proposition, Jeff, and people here FOR rational debates realize that.

297 posted on 03/19/2013 4:32:06 PM PDT by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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