Posted on 11/07/2012 6:10:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
No more! It's time to form a "Tea Party" to supplant the "me too, me too!" GOP. We tried getting behind a Northeastern "centrist" so as to oust the worst president in our history and we crashed and burned. Einstein said "insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results" or words to that effect and he was right. Nixon, Ford, the Bush family, Bob Dole, McCain and now Romney. What's wrong with this picture?
The Tea Party numbers in the tens of millions, at minimum. I don't remember any other independent movement in our country of patriots, do you? We need to take the next step, in my opinion. What do you think? And how would we get started?
“The media has successfully destroyed them.”
Yes the media has successfully destroyed the GOP and Teaparty brands. And will destroy anything else that comes up.
The media needs to be bought out by some of those wealthy folks that were pouring money into Mitt’s campaign and turn the media around from the inside.
We need champions, who will stand up for America.
Right now.
We need to take over the GOP. Right now.
We need to take action. Romney lost. Badly.
The heck with all of them. America first!
“It’s time to form a “Tea Party” to supplant the “me too, me too!”
Agreed But, in deference to Trent Lott, After three years of watching valiant souls trying to herd cats, I’m a bit pessimistic.....especially after last night
I first voted in 1976, Republican, and voted in every presidential election since, straight party ticket. Except yesterday. For the first time in my life, I declined the Republican candidate at the top of the ticket and voted third party in order to decrease the mandate of whoever won. I figured Romney would win in a landslide and still maintain he might have if not for vote fraud, a very real problem that no one in power wants to address. I am heartened, frankly, to see that Romney drew fewer Republicans. It means Americans aren't nearly so dumb and "childish" as Rush thinks they are. All those "masses" who supposedly voted for Obama are a lot imaginary and a lot manufactured. The "children" are whipped up out of smoke.
I would be very willing to drop my Republican registration and re-register in the Constitution Party. The Republican Party, for which I voted all these decades for the express purpose of holding back government tyranny and preserving simple American freedoms, has decayed into a thing of rotten danger.
One of the first things that has to happen is hard-core enforcement of the franchise and to wipe out vote fraud and vote manufacturing.
“I’d be happy if the election season FR moderates would go away and stop telling us that we need to sell out all of our principles to win.”
Agreed.
Yes, my FRiend... I have been feeling that since 2010. I may have mentioned it in 1 or 2 posts, but I know there are many ‘squishies’ here that would have thrown a volcano at me for even mentioning it.
Hopefully, it is much more obvious to the deniers now.
Been thinking about your post. We need other “things” more than a new party. Establishing such a party would burn time and resources. It might make us feel like we were getting into action, but we could be using our time better in other places.
1. We need honest media, or at least honest competition for the current corrupt media. When we sit down with our morning newspaper, it should tell the truth. Donald Trump could do us a service by brokering groups of buyers for existing print media. (Doug Manchester is doing this in San Diego. He is buying newspapers.)
2. Candidates should identify early and have time to get grassroots and financial backers. Romney did this; Rick Perry did not. Romney was running for president for years BEFORE the primaries. He had a campaign team. He had donor backing. Some of the other candidates fell out quickly because they did not have this support.
3. Character matters. Romney is pristine in his personal life. Gingrich . . not so much. I love Newt, and sent him some money, but he would have had a hill to climb to get over the multiple wife thing. Character matters - at least on the conservative side. Not so much with liberals (Scoundral of note; Democrat Menendez from NJ got reelected even as he was involved in a hooker scandal).
4. Instead of organizing a new party, we could be spending our energy identifying talented candidates and putting together grassroots support. If we don’t identify them . . . THE GOP WILL.
There is much that would need to be done but the first and most foremost thing that would need to be done IMHO and that is to dump those that insist on staying in the Republican Party and work from within that all but dead party. Those that advocate that have no ones best interest at heart but t heir very own narrow liberal interests.
I for one want no part of the disgraced Republican party hence forth. They are a lost cause. Enough is enough. The Dems have beaten them at their own game. I'm so disgusted with the RINO's and their ilk. The Republican Party has been sliding down into the state they find themselves in ever since Reagan. Tea Party is our future now.
You get a big 'Amen brother' from me on that issue.
Your "Tea Party" loves subsidies. Your "Tea Party" loves social programs. Your "Tea Party" loves luxury, and it doesn't care how many 3rd-world children it takes to supply it. Your "Tea Party" doesn't want to make sacrifices, and it never will.
Yes, and it needs to be sharply focused on economics, budget and spending. Aiken types will just screw it up. Then it needs to focus on getting about 40 or 50 seats. The number can vary, but it must be sufficient to prevent dems OR repubs from ever having 218 seats.
Then the GOP will be forced to deal with them as a block. Make it where they cannot pass a dogcatcher bill without coming to the TEA coalition. Then we ALWAYS have a demand ready in return for playing ball. If they balk, join the dems for a few votes as a disciplined caucus.
The presidency can come much later.
“The Democrat Party has from 55 to 60 million loyal voters. To be anything but a feel good exercise, a Conservative Party would have to attract at least that number.”
No we do not. We just need enough congressmen, who do not answer to the GOP leadership. We do not need to match the GOP or Dems in size. We only need enough to prevent them from ever having a majority without coming to our block to cut a deal.
And when they come, we play hardball. If they try to neutralize us, we vote with the other side until they beg us to come back.
We could become brokers and paralyze them. Think of this. What if the GOP had 200 seats, the Dems had 195, and we had 40.
If the GOP acted nasty, we could even threaten to join with the dems to have a dem speaker that WE selected.
We could leverage a handful of congressmen into a lot of power. Both sides would come begging. It would be merry hell.
How will this party be competitive any be anything different than the Constitution party, Perot party, Buchanan reform, Bull Moose, or other third parties that failed, fail now, and will fail in the future.
Gop-e only does what primary voters, precinct delegates, and others allow them to do.
Post 71 and 72. We can stop them with a small force. We don’t need more than them to still have immense power. And there is nothing sacred about a two party system. It is not in the constitution. In fact, the founders hoped to avoid standing parties as we know them today.
That’s better than a 3rd party. PACs can do a lot with supporting individual candidates. This is good for all levels of government.
God and social issues ate vital...VITAL to our Republic. What you are offering up for the Tea Party is exactly what Romney campaigned on AND IT DIDN’T WORK. The women put obama over the top because of the War on women crap. We have got to stop running from the abortion issue... IT IS A WINNER ! With the population and with God...people just need to be educated on the subject.... most are very ignorant of it.
CF, you really don’t have a clue do you?
Bowing to the independent freaks again are we? How did that work out for us Tuesday? We don’t need indies. We need the Conservatives to vote, but they had no one to get excited about this time....
Bowing to the independent freaks again are we? How did that work out for us Tuesday? We don’t need indies. We need the Conservatives to vote, but they had no one to get excited about this time....
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