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To: NKP_Vet
>> Rick Perry endorsed instate tuitions for illegals, take that up with him, and he’s not Catholic <<

I said nothing about Rick Perry. I specifically mentioned that the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (which declares the "official" statement of all Catholic leadership in the United States) endorsed instate tuition for illegal aliens, since were you were attacking Christie for "stances go against the Catholic Church". Do you agree with USCCB's position on in-state tuition for illegal aliens, yes or no? Do your support your church leaders on that, or "couldn't care less" what they have to say about that issue?

In one post, you claimed merely having one or two "stances that go against the Catholic make someone "another cafeteria Catholic, in the same vein as Joe Biden". In this post, you claim "Catholics can have different opinions on some issues". Make up your mind, please.

>> "but abortion and homosexual marriage are not one of them. This is where I defer with Christie" <<

Christie not only says homosexual marriage is an abomination, but actually VETOED the legislature's bill to try and legalize gay marriage in NJ. He is openly and proudly pro-life, saying life begins at conception, attending pro-life rallies, and cutting off funding for Planned Parenthood in NJ (of course, he can't wave a magic wand and immediaely end all abortions in NJ, so I suppose that makes him a traitor). Which of those stances and parts of his record do you disagree with and which of them "defy Catholic teachings"?

What you are saying is that a person who agrees with you 99% of the time on those issues is the enemy and "the same as Joe Biden" (who agrees with you 0% of the time on abortion and gay marriage), if they don't govern EXACTLY as you would. Calling someone "pro-choice" who would ban 99% of abortions is about as un-Catholic and un-Christ like as you can get. By your OWN logic, you are "pro-choice" if would give a woman a CHOICE to have an abortion if her life was in danger. Your behavior is nothing like the religion you claim to profess. Jesus knew everyone was a sinner and would never excommunicate people or turn them away merely they did ONE thing he disapproved of. Peter would have never been Pope if you were in charge, since you'd proclaim he was a "non-apostle, anti-Jesus person" after he denied Jesus ONCE -- let alone three times. Nevermind the countless other times he stood by Jesus, you wouldn't "count" those times, just as you don't count the many, many times Christie has stood up for traditional marriage and the sancity of life.

Shame on you for trashing the most conservative Governor New Jersey has had in 80 years. You ought to proud New Jersey FINALLY has a governor who fights gay marriage and works to fight abortion, instead of trashing him because he's not 100% perfect.

290 posted on 08/29/2012 1:16:28 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

You are starting to repeat the same thing over and over.
Like I said Christie is for abortion in cases of rape and incest and “life of the mother”. This is directly against Catholic Church teaching and is a non-negotiable moral truth of the Church. So there, let me say it again. Christie is for abortion. All abortion is evil.

He has also said people are born homosexual and they can not change. This is also true and certainly not a teaching of the Catholic Church. Christie basically touts the Northern moderate GOP line on abortion and all other social issues. In that regard he’s like Romney.

The Roman Catholic Church opposes all forms of abortion procedures whose direct purpose is to destroy an embryo, blastocyst, zygote or fetus, since it holds that “human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.

Homosexual acts are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

I defer with the USCCB on the majority of there liberal positions, but we totally agree on the two moral issues that are non-negotiable - ABORTION AND HOMOSEXUALITY!

I try my best to live my life according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church.


296 posted on 08/29/2012 3:10:56 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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