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To: GenXteacher
you’re pretty much trying to deny the existence of the GOP-e, and I’m not buying it.

Then I'm not communicating effectively. How do you think the elite becomes elite?

I’d rather have a political party that wouldn’t nominate a left-winger

And how would you do that? Not have a primary? Not have the votes count in the primary?

I don’t have time to write a book about it

That would require thinking about: “What apparatus specifically and where does it come from, how is it empowered and by whom?”

The local GOP works just fine.

I'm glad to hear that. Your problem then must be regional, state or national. Where do those 'elite' come from? How do they get their positions?

And if the national party keeps going left

What do you think is the way the party moves left or right nationally? How is your idea of a third party going to change that? What specifically?

63 posted on 08/27/2012 8:31:37 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

“How do you think the elite becomes elite?”
Buying state-level party chairmen, secretaries of state and the like.

“And how would you do that? Not have a primary? Not have the votes count in the primary?”
Actually have a real primary where everybody gets a chance to vote instead of waiting months until the worthwhile candidates drop- 1 day, all across the nation, at one time. And those primaries should be closed.

“What apparatus specifically and where does it come from, how is it empowered and by whom?”
Just start with Ben Ginsberg, then work your way up to his boss. This little dirty pool trick at the convention should give you some clues.

“Your problem then must be regional, state or national. Where do those ‘elite’ come from? How do they get their positions? “
Buying them through patronage, agreements of mutual support, and the like.

“Then I’m not communicating effectively.”
No, you’re trying very hard. The problem is that you are essentially defending a quiet form of corruption. The problem with the snake-oil is that someone has to want to buy it....no sale.


64 posted on 08/28/2012 3:20:16 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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