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So now speaking the truth makes one a "bomb-thrower" Cameron? This is why we keep losing on issue after issue: The media gets to frame the issues and pigeonhole everybody any way they like.
1 posted on 06/16/2012 1:07:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I would prefer John Kerry over Obama at this point.


2 posted on 06/16/2012 1:14:24 AM PDT by tsowellfan (Should Obama recuse himself from making any decisions on immigration?)
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Well then the GOPe shouldn’t have foisted a dem on us as our nominee. Yeah, I’ll probably vote for him, but enough conservatives won’t (rightfully so) that the election will remain in doubt until it is over.

And frankly, I’m not convinced romney will be any better than obama (lower cases intentional). I just know he can’t be worse.

Here’s a clue, GOPe leeches: You need a functional productive nation to suck on. The choices you’ve given us are slim (romney) and none (obama) for that. But parasites die when the host does, so congratulations on your decisions. Scum.

/obviously not directed at 2nd...


3 posted on 06/16/2012 1:18:39 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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[ If Obama wins, ‘we’re going to lose this country’ ]

If thats true THEN............

WHy did we elect the inventor of Romney-care to run against the inventor of Obama-care?..

You know, we elected this knothead and every republican this side of Toronto is supporting him!...

Maybe we’ll become like Canada that can’t afford a decent military..
They pray the AMerican military umbrella will save them..
You know, like we’ve always done..

Gross out of control socialism cannot afford a decent military..
Thats why the Russians had all those rusty old hulks called tanks the democrats were afraid of..
And why they bankrupted themselves.. Oh the tanks were always starving for fuel.. and most of the tank crews were raging alcoholics..

Who can blame them, there were vacuous socialists everywhere there..
You know, like there is in Canada..


7 posted on 06/16/2012 1:26:33 AM PDT by hosepipe
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"Collectivism will replace individualism, government agencies will replace free enterprise..."

That's already happened. The bipartisan political/regulator class is running on debt, poorly concealed hysteria and pathological schemes. Think of the consequences they're bringing as an adventure.


19 posted on 06/16/2012 2:29:38 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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“In modern usage, the term “dictator” is generally used to describe a leader who holds and/or abuses an extraordinary amount of personal power, especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly. Dictatorships are often characterized by some of the following traits: suspension of elections and of civil liberties; proclamation of a state of emergency; rule by decree; repression of political opponents without abiding by rule of law procedures; these include single-party state, and cult of personality.”


21 posted on 06/16/2012 2:37:38 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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""We have to win this election, or we're going to lose this country,” Priebus said. “Collectivism will replace individualism, government agencies will replace free enterprise and the dreams of Obama will replace the vision of our Founding Fathers.""

I suspect it will be even worse. Christianity will be suppressed. Islam will be elevated and failing to show sufficient enthusiasm for Dear Leader will lead to sanctions, denial of benefits and mandatory reeducation through thought crimes type legislation.

24 posted on 06/16/2012 2:55:38 AM PDT by Truth29
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Pretty neat trick there by the RNC. Use the language of conservatism but support a liberal candidate.

So we won’t lose the country if we elect a liberal like Romney? Promise?

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....


26 posted on 06/16/2012 3:24:33 AM PDT by Third Person ( Actions reflect priorities.)
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One. The RNC does not have this country. The party has always been corrupt and I was the Republicans who worked to destroy small agriculture through legislative efforts favoring ADM and Monsanto.

Two. It ain’t over until after the coming war.


29 posted on 06/16/2012 3:41:50 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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One. The RNC does not have this country. The party has always been corrupt and I was the Republicans who worked to destroy small agriculture through legislative efforts favoring ADM and Monsanto.

Two. It ain’t over until after the coming war.


30 posted on 06/16/2012 3:41:50 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Since when is electing a RINO in America's best interest? We all sit here and bemoan the RINOS Snowe, Collins, Graham and many others, Specter before he got bounced...now we are being asked to vote for another RINO because he is the lesser of 2 evils. Well I have news for you EVIL is EVIL no matter how lesser of it, it is. A RINO is a demonRAT in a gop label.

And I am sick and tired of being forced to make that choice. Just as I am sick and tired of being ATTACKED because I dared to take a NO RINO stance. If you chose to vote for a RINO do it, don't attack me because I REFUSE to.

33 posted on 06/16/2012 4:11:56 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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“Collectivism will replace individualism, government agencies will replace free enterprise

We are already at this point. When half your income goes to give politicians a Platinum life style and retirement, and you are SLAVE to the government for 6 months of the year to provide that life style. TERM LIMITS! tie their pay raises to granny's and Ret. Military COLA RAISES. In fact the public should have to VOTE to give them a pay raise.

Misspelling is not mine.

37 posted on 06/16/2012 4:27:53 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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*BEAT OBABA*


40 posted on 06/16/2012 4:36:42 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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The RNC has nobody to blame but itself.


44 posted on 06/16/2012 5:07:37 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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"We're in a battle for freedom in this country," he said,

Just figured that out now, didja?

50 posted on 06/16/2012 6:03:48 AM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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The RNC have zero credibility with me. If there ever was a time for Reagan’s “bold colors,” it’s now...and the Republican establishment are pushing the weakest, wimpiest, Demopublican/RINO I’ve ever seen.

I’m not listening to anything the RNC have to say.


51 posted on 06/16/2012 6:10:14 AM PDT by dinodino
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If both sides run on taking the country back then maybe it has been lost.


52 posted on 06/16/2012 6:25:10 AM PDT by equaviator
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Then publicly out the fraud and his whole criminal cabal (US attorney general, czars, aides, etc) and call for justice. These repubs have no idea to the extent these radcials will try to remain in power.

Those who count the votes control elections...


53 posted on 06/16/2012 6:31:53 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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Well, I don't think Clinton was "your Daddy's Democrat" either.

He was a pervert perjurer. And the Witch tried for socialized medicine.

67 posted on 06/16/2012 11:15:12 AM PDT by what's up
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We have to systematically wake people up to the media problem. Yes they have gotten away with framing issues in a totally absurd way. Frankly, we dare not simply accept that they can keep getting away with that, as a fact of life.

Part of the present problem with the media may be directly traced to Senator McCain's deliberate refusal to let those connected with his campaign really address the fundamental anti-Americanism of Obama. The combination of a Leftist media, conditioned by Leftist academics to hold American traditions in contempt, with a President who has no interest whatsoever with preserving what most of us hold sacred, will be absolutely deadly, if we do not find ways to fight back more effectively.

William Flax

73 posted on 06/16/2012 11:43:56 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Very true. I’m not certain that the country can survive a second Obama term.


78 posted on 06/16/2012 5:03:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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