Posted on 02/29/2012 8:05:44 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
On a recent Lou Dobbs show, The Hill commentator Dick Morris was asked about the primary outcome: Mitt Romney wins Michigan and then goes on to sweep Super Tuesday and wins the nomination. He beats Obama and is elected president in 2012.
Makes sense. But Laura Ingraham, who brings intuition to her take, said Tuesday morning on Imus that if Romney wins Michigan, look for a Gingrich insurgence on Super Tuesday. In a word, Gingrich will finally have commandeered the insurgent’s role, taking it finally from Santorum (and Perry, Cain, Bachmann and Paul). And since Sarah Palin was named VP by John McCain in 2008, conservative culture has been in a grassroots insurgency; it is an authentic insurgency in search of its Trickster, and that could well be Newt Gingrich.
Intuitive, in my estimation, as this race has been influenced by two factors: one, the rise of a garden variety of new ideas and all candidates besides Romney can be seen as proponents of some kind of new thinking; some of it strange (Santorum), some of it lucid (Paul). This calls an end to the conservative tradition if there ever even has been one to end. Two, the “establishment,” a phrase I first used primarily to call on the Bush family apparatus featuring Chris Christie and Jeb Bush, including the Weekly Standard group, featuring Fred Barnes as representative (who first pitched Christie/Jeb Bush 2012), is not really a tradition so much a mainstream power/influence group and they have shown great reluctance to get behind the obvious manager here, Mitt Romney. I can think of no other reason why they opposed him other than the fact that he is a clear thinker and smarter than they are and will not be lackey to their initiatives and agendas as George W. Bush was. This has left the field open to the insurgents.
This could be a fatal mistake for the Republicans because without mainstream support behind Romney and with the establishment’s wicked, perverse and subversive wish for a brokered convention in which Christie and Jeb Bush would emerge, it sends the weight instead to whomever can consolidate the varied publics behind the “new people”: Perry, Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich, Ron Paul and throw in Sarah Palin. Who would be the single combat warrior to oppose? Newt Gingrich. And bring back Rick Perry as VP.
In a more spooky vein, it is interesting that Gingrich brought up the Lincoln/Douglas debate as with Gingrich it has always come to my mind in my Southern experience the Simon Legree type or archetype; those from elsewhere who come to the South and love it too much. And Obama brings Lincoln to mind considering that Obama fulfills the third goal of the Lincoln era: the first goal to prevent Southern secession, the second to free the slaves, the third to bring egalitarianism between white and black. Obama v. Gingrich in debate does indeed suggest Lincoln v. Douglas; the ghosts of Lincoln and Douglas.
When history finally completes its purposes, it tends to move on. Is it possible to see Gingrich winning a debate with Obama? Entirely. And thus the presidency? The country has been in a fever these past three years. Absolutely.
I think it means to us now that Santorum has been seen not to compete against Mitt Romney head on 1-vs-1 then it gives Gingrich an opening to sew up the “not-Romney” vote and possible take “Super Tuesday”.
-J.S.
I'll try, and this does not mean I necessarily agree with it 100% - but I think I know where they're going with this.
In this crazy world of 2012 politics, it seems like there is only one non-Romney at a time. And for some reason, it seems like the public gives that non-Romney a couple bites at the apple, and if they don't take him down, they reject him for another non-Romney.
Santorum was crushed by Newt in SC and Florida, but after Florida, said that "newt has had his chance" and "now it's my turn" to be the non Romney. Now of course that makes no sense when you consider that Santorum was "having his chance" in SC and Florida too.
But dammit - the public bought it - and Santorum, who was crushed by Newt in SC and Florida - was nonetheless "given his chance" to be the non Romney. Thus with his epic fail in Michigan just days after having a big lead, the thinking is - now it's Newt's turn again.
I'm not sure it will work or not, but I think that's the translation.
Just sent the Newt $250 more.
And the only cure is more cowbell.
In terms of delegates, Santorum tied Romney (15 apiece) in Michigan:
Santorum tied Romney in a state that Romney should have taken easily.
I think Laura is on LSD. It’s over for Gingrich. OVER.
As I said before, a Romney nomination equates with the death of the GOP.
The conservative branch will split with the RINO establishment (which will collapse by lack of voters), and create the Republican Conservative Party - RCP.
Wall Street Billionaires and Michigan Workers;
By Jay Nordlinger
February 28, 2012 4:07 P.M. Comments
46In his robocall to Michigan voters, Rick Santorum is saying, “Romney supported the bailout for his Wall Street billionaire buddies, but opposed the auto bailout. That was a slap in the face to every Michigan worker.”
For almost 60 years now, National Review has worked against this kind of crudity — crudity of thought and crudity of expression. And this is our guy? Santorum is the conservatives’ guy?
Many conservatives supported the bank bailout and opposed the auto bailout. You can look up arguments within NR editorials. Conservatives all over the country, in all sorts of forums, made arguments for and against — for and against either bailout. Those arguments continue now, retrospectively.
But is there any thinking or respectable conservative who uses Rick Santorum’s language — the bank bailout was for Mitt Romney’s “Wall Street billionaire buddies” while Michigan workers got their faces slapped? (Santorum opposed the auto bailout, too. Was he slapping workers’ faces?)
Ladies and gentlemen, this isn’t conservatism. It’s more like street-corner Marxism. What a strange and tragic pass we’ve reached.”
Santorum should recognize NOW that he is not a player in the first league and endorse Gingrich. The split of the conservative vote among two candidates is lethal to the conservative principles.
On the other hand, Romney’s nomination will hand to Obama more four years to finish America off.
Blech.
Romney will get slaughtered in the General.
“Tied?” LOL! Hardly that! And thanks to Santorum pandering to the Democrats, who were allowed to cross over and vote for him. (Who certainly would NOT in the General)
Your savior got himself in serious trouble with the base this time. That's a fact.
“Pantorum (As in Pander) tritely revealed his true colors in Michigan.”
I’m afraid we haven’t seen anything yet. Santorum is capable of selling his delegates to Romney for a VP slot, if it isn’t already done in the backroom.
Normally he should have stepped down in Florida. Ask yourselves WHO has kept his candidature afloat?
It’s useful to mention that although not competing in Florida, Santorum’s campaign ran there negative ads against Gingrich (with whose money?), and he did the same thing in Missouri, where Newt wasn’t even on the ballot.
Mitt&Rick, the underground team? Everything is possible.
* A shallow Victory for Mitt, lower margins than McLame in 08'.
* A near miss loss for Rick being his too cute by half by being the Jr High Hall Monitor persona especially with the Robo-Call
* The bottom line is they both come out of Michigan Bloodied and display that we don't want the Romney and the current Anti-Romney.
* This is critical given how Red Michigan went in 2010, IMHO it is battleground Zero for 12' to take the POTUS, It is ripe for the taking.Mr. Newt, enter stage Right...FWIW Newt's in-road to MI will be:
* The Elimination of the EPA and CAFE
* And his Energy Policy.
* They are Drilling For more Oil and Shale Gas here in MI, those are jobs and independence and the car you want to drive
Quietly, the rumors are when a UAW line guy earn over 100 grand for a few years they vote as high as 40% ( or more we don't know for sure) for Republicans, they can't say it though...
More fuel for their boats and snowmobiles at reasonable prices? Interesting to think that they would pull the lever for Newt in the privacy of the booth...
Yes ...very true.
This was actually my first thought on hearing that Romney won Michigan. Santorum weakened, the anti-Romney vote goes back to Newt, who was already gearing up for Super Tuesday, after helping Rick (and trying to stop Mitt) by not campaigning hard in Michigan.
“I can think of no other reason why they opposed (Romney) other than the fact that he is a clear thinker and smarter than they are and will not be lackey to their initiatives and agendas as George W. Bush was.”
Whaaaaa?
The Bushites have all been Romney backers from the Get Go.
That said, the article does bring one thing up. If Gingrich mentioned he’d consider Perry in the number two spot, that might seal the deal. (I know, I’d love Palin too)
“In terms of delegates, Santorum tied Romney (15 apiece) in Michigan”
And?
Do you call that a “victory”?
A so-called “conservative” candidate pandering to democrats?
Romney is scum. Santorum is scum. That’s where you find yourselves.
If the voters don’t regain their common sense and nominate Gingrich, the conservative cause loses the 2012 fight, and America loses much more - its future.
If someone were raising my taxes 400% every 4 years, I’d move away so fast you’d forget my name in a week.
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