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1 posted on 02/18/2012 1:38:48 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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I remember in June of 2008 being at the gay Pride parade here in Chicago and talking to a man named David Valkema from the Log Cabin Republicans — a classic Cocktail Partier. He said — and I will never, ever forget this — “Sometimes we run a guy we just want to get rid of so we can be done with him for good. No one wants McCain to win, and I hope Obama wins, because he’ll be a new Jimmy Carter and then we can have a new Reagan later”. He said that McCain could have his run — and have the “one and done” shot at a national campaign — and then the party would be able to tell him to shut up and go away, much like what it did to Bob Dole after his spectacular loss.

We used to hear that kind of thing here before Palin and the tea party, I still don't feel comfortable speaking about how FR has been or is, as someone who has't been here so long, but it seems to me that we are a little more focused on and confident of, being able to make things change.

We don't have so many guys talking about the inevitable, and the unchangeable, the unbreakable conspiracies, the uselessness which only leaves cynicism and bitterness to cling to, we seem to think that we have a real shot at change, and at winning, it seems to me that we are more aggressive and now we are part of a wider, stronger, more confident, and capable, and better led, conservative movement.

2 posted on 02/18/2012 2:00:35 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is unquestionably the weakest party front-runner in contemporary political history.)
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I agree perfectly.

If the Republicans had wanted to win, they would have run the most credentialed nominee they could find and they would have run as hard as they can.

I think they are afraid of holding the financial bag and being blamed for the economic situation of 2012-2016. If the Republicans won 2012, and everything goes to pot, they know that the media will work hard to ensure that the Republicans are held responsible, even if we know it won’t be.

It’s my guess that the Republicans are hoping for a 2012 loss so there is no way to spin a good Democratic yarn about how it is not their fault.

At this point, the Republicans will run a superstar and hope to get both the House and Senate to boot. I honestly believe, if they win in 2016, they will at that point do some strong reforms, if they do have control of everything.

That’s why they don’t want Newt to win and are doing everything they can to beat him.


4 posted on 02/18/2012 2:12:10 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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"I don’t even think bringing on someone as spectacular as Allen West as VP could drag Romney across the finish line."

I don't even think bringing on someone as spectacular as Sarah Palin as VP could drag McCain across the finish line...

7 posted on 02/18/2012 2:36:07 AM PST by ~Vor~ (Freeper since 10/98)
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And along the way of losing Dole, McCain and Romney we also lose the Country,sounds like a Plan.


9 posted on 02/18/2012 3:18:36 AM PST by ballplayer
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"Two men enter - one man leaves..."

19 posted on 02/18/2012 5:45:31 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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One of the underlying premises assumes that the Republican Party establishment has a long-term, strategic plan. This basic assumption is false. The Republcan Party establishment couldn’t find its @ss with both hands and a roadmap.


20 posted on 02/18/2012 5:46:56 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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a Romney nomination is intended as a strategic loss because the GOP secretly (or not so secretly, as the case may be) really wants to lose the election

DING DING DING the WINNAH!

Good image of the GOP's resolve to fight:


21 posted on 02/18/2012 6:53:45 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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