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To: BenKenobi
The Founders were religious men.

Bullcrap. Look at Franklin, who screwed anything with a heartbeat, or Jefferson, who was a Deist.

I do have control of my actions.

God will decide in the end, but I get to choose. And that, God gave me.

And if 10 basic rules were good enough for Him, they should be good enough for Congress.

100,000 pages+ of laws?

That's true evil, and the confounding influence of Satan.

/johnny

57 posted on 01/19/2012 10:11:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And if 10 basic rules were good enough for Him, they should be good enough for Congress. 100,000 pages+ of laws?

Post of the Day. Week. Month. Year so far. (And I'm an atheist!)

66 posted on 01/19/2012 10:21:24 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Bullcrap. Look at Franklin, who screwed anything with a heartbeat, or Jefferson, who was a Deist.”

Yes, they were religious men.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their CREATOR, certain rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

So, yes, your rights do not come from you. They come from God.

“I do have control of my actions.”

Uh huh. I see. So where do rights come from? Do they come from you?

“God will decide in the end, but I get to choose. And that, God gave me.”

Indeed, but you have to sacrifice autonomy in order to be with him. As Paul says, “you are not your own, you were bought for a price”.

“And if 10 basic rules were good enough for Him”

So what’s the first one?

“I am the Lord your God - you shall have no other God’s before me.”

Does that sound like it AFFIRMs autonomy, or is it saying, hey, You are Mine.


68 posted on 01/19/2012 10:21:52 PM PST by BenKenobi (Vindicated! Santorum wins IOWA!)
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