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GOP 2012: Who will Romney pick? (So he's already the nominee?!)
The Johannesburg Daily Maverick ^ | January 16, 2012 | J. Brooks Spector

Posted on 01/16/2012 2:02:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Despite the US vice president having the dubious, if undeserved bad rap as the most useless position in US politics, the choice of vice presidential running mate is one of the clearest signposts of what kind of president a candidate, Republican or Democrat, may be.

Let’s assume Romney stays on a roll towards the Republican Party nomination after victories in the still-upcoming South Carolina, Florida, Nevada and Maine primaries. It won’t give him an actual majority needed for the nomination, but it will be a powerful message to other Republicans to get behind one candidate before they do enough damage to each other to leave nothing left for the Democrats in the general election.

Ending up with Romney sooner rather than later would stop the astonishing bloodletting that has had conservatives like Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum accuse Romney of being an immoral vulture capitalist whose crime has been to embrace with joyful enthusiasm Schumpeterian capitalism and its logic of creative destruction. This is increasingly likely even as social conservatives met over the weekend in Texas to try to bring the born again/evangelical/fundamentalist communities to coalesce around Rick Santorum as their anti-Romney candidate and avatar of family values as the core of a presidential campaign.

But in the real world that is less and less likely. So, if Romney does go into the convention in Tampa, Florida in late August as the de facto, all-but-anointed candidate, his thoughts will undoubtedly have turned to completing his ticket in who he would have as his running-mate and vice presidential candidate.

For a long time, the vice presidency was demeaned as the most insignificant political office in America. Constitutionally, the vice president’s job is to preside over the senate and be ready to step in if the incumbent president is impeached and convicted of “high crimes and misdemeanours”, dies or is otherwise unable to continue in office. In a letter to his wife, John Adams, while he was vice president, wrote, “My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived; and as I can do neither good nor evil, I must be borne away by others and meet the common fate.”

And Adams, after all, had helped draft the constitution and knew better than most what he had set himself up for when he became Washington’s vice president. However, vice presidents have taken over as president nine times (eight through death in office and one via impeachment) and five others were elected president eventually as well. And the vice president now routinely gets a real role in the presidency, for good or ill. Al Gore took on government efficiency and Dick Cheney took on al Qaeda, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Less artfully, but probably more pungently, John Nance Garner, Franklin Roosevelt’s first vice president, described his office as “not worth a bucket of warm spit”. Well, actually he was earthier than that – but the newspapers of the time chose not to offend. George and Ira Gershwin shared parentage of the musical, Of Thee I Sing, in which a thoroughly insignificant vice president, Alexander Throttlebottom, is mocked; while in the film, Dave, Ben Kingsley portrays a truly decent man consigned to the vice presidency.

Traditionally, until the mid-1980s, a presidential nominee usually obeyed one of three models in picking a running mate. Firstly, he could select the person who was the runner-up in the nomination process, thereby uniting the party. A second alternative was to balance the ticket ideologically, within reason. If there was a social activist presidential nominee, then there should be a more cautious running mate, or vice versa. A third alternative was to balance the ticket on regional grounds or on age and experience. Eisenhower’s vast experience was paired with the more youthful Richard Nixon in 1952 and 1956. Vice versa when it came to the Kennedy-Johnson ticket in 1960 and the Kennedy-Johnson pairing brought together New England and the South as well.

But with the nomination of Geraldine Ferraro as Walter Mondale’s running mate in 1984, a new element, gender, was finally on the table, to be picked up next with the nomination of Sarah Palin in 2008, and the near-selection of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee. Two further barriers have been broken in recent years as well, race and religion. Joe Lieberman became the first Jewish candidate to run in 2000 with Al Gore, and, of course, Barack Obama broke the ultimate taboo in American politics by being the first other-than-white, and winning, candidate for a major party.

Mitt Romney faces a matrix of choices as he heads towards Tampa. Does he simply pick the next in line with delegate vote totals at the convention (say, Ron Paul), or does he make use of his choice to say something cogent and compelling about his own governing principles. And remember, plain vanilla-white Americans will no longer be an absolute majority in about three decades, say most demographic predictions.

And so, to help readers handicap this question, here is a rundown of some possible candidates, as well as a couple of wild cards, to watch.

The obvious choices are Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman and Ron Paul. You can delete the last two as really long-odds candidates. Huntsman’s background is far too similar to Romney’s to be a rational choice, and Paul’s ideological and political perspectives could not be more different than Romney’s if they were in different parties.

Rick Perry has already shown he would be a distinct liability on the stump and in vice presidential candidate debates, while Newt Gingrich and Perry have unleashed such a barrage of personal attacks on Romney it is hard to see what voters would make of an unholy union with either of them. Of the current crop of alternative contenders, that would seem to leave Rick Santorum as a possible running mate. Santorum has a well-demonstrated common touch, but he has been sufficiently linked to the legislative earmarks/patronage/conveyor belt from congress to K Street influence peddler that his presence on the ticket might well be read as a repudiation of Romney’s own message of strict, no-nonsense business values. And in any case, Iowa may well prove to have been Santorum’s one lucky break.

So, who’s left? Somewhat surprisingly, the Republicans seem to have something of a weak bench of individuals who might be acceptable to the broad range of opinion in the party right now. The political journal, The New Republic recently tried to game the vice presidential sweepstakes for the Republicans with a list of 10 possible choices. TNR put Florida senator Marco Rubio, New Mexico governor Susanna Martinez, New Jersey governor Chris Christie, Ohio senator Rob Portman, South Dakota senator John Thune, Virginia governor Bob McDonnell, South Carolina governor Nikki Haley, Nevada governor Brian Sandoval, and Indiana governor Mitch Daniel as possibles.

TNR’s line on these people, is that, generally speaking, they are either too new in their jobs to have developed an obvious patina of experience and judgment, or they look and sound so much like Mitt Romney they could, for all intents and purposes, be his twin – whites, from the business-friendly, moderate wing of their party. Three, Rubio, Martinez and Sandoval, are Hispanic Americans, but are new at their jobs and party greybeards are said to be wary of another disaster like Sarah Palin in bringing an attractive, but inexperienced figure under the relentless magnifying glass of national media and politics. Nikki Haley would also be a wild card as a (South) Indian-American and she was an early Romney supporter, but is also new at her job and, unfairly perhaps, had to deal with accusations of infidelity during her campaign for governor. So, from this group, three Hispanics, one South Asian, two women and a gaggle of white boys named whomever. Of the latter, Portman has had significant White House experience as Bush’s budget director and Chris Christie was almost drafted to run as the definitive anti-Romney, but none of this dozen minus two is the obvious big winner yet.

To this list, one might add congressmen Eric Cantor from Virginia and Paul Ryan from Wisconsin, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, and – wait for it – former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice, even if she has never given a hint of interest. Kantor has been the pointman for the Republican Party’s budget disputes with Barack Obama and Ryan has been pro-active in propounding a Spartan, but long-term budget solution, regardless of which interest group oxen are gored. Meanwhile, while Jindal did himself no good with a particularly gormless Republican response to an Obama State of the Union speech a while back, he has been getting pretty good marks as a governor, although he has endorsed Rick Perry as a fellow governor from a neighbouring state.

And then there is Condoleezza Rice. Go ahead, tick the boxes on her – articulate, black, female, smart, experienced, she plays the piano, is a talented ice skater and knows the world, its problems and its leaders (something Romney can’t say so strongly about himself, given his own background). A couple of downsides exist too: she’s never run for office and was a leading co-architect of Bush’s wars.

What does this add up to? One thing it does say is the Republicans are not as deep in the kind of talent that speaks to the country as a whole, as opposed to a series of relatively inexperienced politicians who have powerful but divided, more limited constituencies. As a result, assuming Romney is the nominee, who he reaches out to as his running mate will be the first big demonstration of what kind of presidency he aims for, once he gets past that little matter of beating the incumbent.

And speaking of Barack Obama, in the past several weeks there has been yet another mini-boom in pushing Hillary Clinton as his running mate and appointing Joe Biden as secretary of state instead. That story first made the rounds a while back and the Obama administration dismissed it as sheer fantasy. Now, however, New York Times columnist and former editor-in-chief Bill Keller has brought the story back arguing in a column on 8 January that such a choice would present a tough ticket to defeat, would revitalise support for Obama from now-wavering constituencies and would allow the Obama administration to give vice president Joe Biden the job he has really wanted for decades anyway. Even if Romney wraps up the nomination by 1 February, there’s still lots of fun left in this presidential election year.


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KEYWORDS: condoleezza; hillary; palin; romney
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BAIN/FOX Channel's Reigning PIMP:
"What about me?"

Romney/Wallace 2012


21 posted on 01/16/2012 2:47:26 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Blacksheep

Should have proofed it. Tapped out on my pda while stting in a parking lot. Sorry!


22 posted on 01/16/2012 2:49:55 PM PST by Blacksheep (There are no coincidences)
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To: StAnDeliver

Thanks for that info.

I did not know that.

I WAS not aware of that!


23 posted on 01/16/2012 2:52:11 PM PST by ngat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Willard is not the nominee. But when Newt is, he’ll pick Huck to shore up the women vote. The ladies love some Huck.

Today’s ARG Florida 2012 GOP Primary Poll

Among Men

•Newt Gingrich 34% : )
•Mitt Romney 30%
•Rick Santorum 10%
•Ron Paul 7%
•Rick Perry 0%
•Undecided 10%

Among Women

•Mitt Romney 56%
•Newt Gingrich 14% : |
•Rick Santorum 8%
•Ron Paul 8%
•Rick Perry 6%
•Undecided 6%


24 posted on 01/16/2012 2:53:22 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Blacksheep

Mighty interesting comments there, blacksheep.


25 posted on 01/16/2012 2:55:02 PM PST by ngat
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To: CainConservative

Them’s some seriously politically incorrect statistics you posted.

Unfortunately, they are true.

All is lost.


26 posted on 01/16/2012 2:57:51 PM PST by ngat
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To: Blacksheep

TWO northeastern moderate libs on the R ticket makes Obama a VERY happy boy.


27 posted on 01/16/2012 2:58:36 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Petraeus, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Blacksheep
While I believe Romney is a progressive he may be our only choice to stop Obama.

I will never vote for another RINO, and you can't scare me into it.

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28 posted on 01/16/2012 3:07:48 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: dfwgator

I was there myself, dfw.

The thought of having to vote for Mitts makes me want to puke.

But then I look in the adorable face of my 6 month old nephew, and I feel guilty man, I feel like I got to do what got to be done.

In the very least, assuming Romney becomes Obama’s opponent and then is elected, we would have a president who is answerable to the voters again in 4 years as opposed to a naked marxist who is contemptuous of the constitution and answerable to no one.

That truly frightens me, and I mean fear.

God help us.


29 posted on 01/16/2012 3:11:22 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cayuga

While I do find this funny :D

It is aimed right at me, because I am scared of an Obama second term, I mean really damn scared.

What do I do? I mean very seriously, I want to avoid a second term for our homo muslim, and I’m pretty much willing to do anything to achieve that. I’m stuck :(


30 posted on 01/16/2012 3:17:16 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Blacksheep

There’s a better chance for Rubio if Romney is NOT elected. Not since FDR/Truman has one party held the WH for more than 12 years. Romney-Rubio winning in ‘12 means no Rubio until ‘20 and then highly unlikely to win a 2nd term.

If we can gut out another term of 0bama, the odds of having a conservative in the WH for 8+ years beginning in ‘16 go up.


31 posted on 01/16/2012 3:20:51 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Not Romney. Not Now. Not in November.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope it's Rubio, because if Romney loses, it will eliminate two people I don't want to be president from future contention.
32 posted on 01/16/2012 4:31:43 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Blacksheep
The Tea Party is laying in the weeds and will tie up Romney tight if he is elected

You must be joking. The so-called Tea Party gains of 2010 have done absolutely nothing. Led by Democrat plant Crybaby Boehner, the House, even with the newly elected members, went along completely with Obama's agenda. The real risk is amnesty. Obama could not get it passed, but a Republican president like Romney or Gingrich just might. This would be the end, a permanent progressive majority.

The Tea Party is out of gas and it's rhetoric seems quaint in the face of a Romney or Gingrich candidacy.

Personally, I see little hope that whoever gets elected will fundamentally change anything. Mitt liked Romneycare but doesn't like Obamacare. Newt liked his own individual mandate proposal but doesn't like Obama's individual mandate proposal. Same crap.

Sorry, but the election will be between two political insiders whose primary concern is there own self aggrandizement. The results, like the 2008 election, will be devastating.

33 posted on 01/16/2012 4:49:57 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: chris37
What do I do? I mean very seriously, I want to avoid a second term for our homo muslim, and I’m pretty much willing to do anything to achieve that.

I don’t think it really matters what you do.

With the MSM little more than the propaganda wing of the DNC, an electorate that follows “American Idol” more than national elections, and massive voter fraud in swing states, it’s over.

At best, electing a RINO will only delay the inevitable third American revolution.

34 posted on 01/16/2012 4:54:09 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

More like Hitler and Himmler.


35 posted on 01/16/2012 5:28:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: CainConservative
"The ladies love some Huck..."

You made me throw up in my mouth.

36 posted on 01/16/2012 6:07:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: BfloGuy
He's an American: Brooks Spector’s writing often appears in “The Sunday Independent,” he serves as a commentator on American political issues for a variety of South African radio and TV stations, and he is on the board of directors of Johannesburg’s Market Theatre. His articles have also been included in two books, “New Tools for Reform and Stability” (2004) and “The Yearbook of International Affairs” (2004), both published by SAIIA. He is now completing work on a study of the comparative policy implications of sports, cultural and academic boycotts, and he is a visiting senior lecturer for the International Relations Department of the University of the Witwatersrand, where he is teaching American foreign policy. Spector recently retired from the American Foreign Service after a thirty-one year career that included service in South Africa (1975-6, 1989-92 and 2001-3), Japan, Indonesia and Swaziland. In 1992 he led negotiations for the return of American cultural exchanges and American Fulbright Professors to an emerging new South Africa. As he was about to retire from the U.S. Government, his wife -- a South African -- told him, 'I'm staying here, and so what are your plans?'.... so he stayed, right here in Johannesburg.
37 posted on 01/16/2012 6:12:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huntsman. That is the reason behind the timing of his withdrawal.


38 posted on 01/16/2012 6:16:49 PM PST by ace2u_in_MD (You missed something...)
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To: cayuga

Yeah, I have to agree.

My brother and his wife are casual politicos, even though if you ask them they think they are following things very closely.

I also think a revolution is coming, and I’d like to avoid that, because I believe its going to be hell.

I’m not certain that we have anything other than RINOs at this point.

I’m pretty disillusioned about it all, but then I think I can’t let it demotivate me, can’t let it make me stay home, because that is what Obama is counting on, Hell, it may even be what the GOP is counting on.

One thing I know is he has got to go.


39 posted on 01/16/2012 6:20:13 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Grunthor
I figger Huntsman is a leading candidate......

I figger there's some big wigs inside LDS, Inc....that want that.

I also think there's plenty that don't......for political reasons. Not that they wouldn't want him VP...but they are thinking politically.

Nothing new.

40 posted on 01/16/2012 6:23:11 PM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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