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1 posted on 01/12/2012 9:56:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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I usually agree with DeMint but here I think he is wrong! I don’t think the rhetoric needs to be “toned” down as far as Obama and his cronies are concerned...but I do think it needs to be toned down against each other in the fact that we need to be attacking Obama and the dems and what they are trying to do to this counrty. This is where all of the disgruntlement is...period. We need to be running against Obama and the dems and their systematic destruction of America and the American dream....not all this other BS. Just IMO


2 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:04 PM PST by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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I agree with Richard Viguerie. He recognized in 2005/6 that the Washington Repubs (including W) were destroying the conservative movement. I was upset with Viguerie when I heard him speak, but, he was right.


3 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:19 PM PST by nowheretohide (BTTT!!!!)
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Since Demint has endorsed the establishment candidate - of course he wants no effective criticism of that candidate.


4 posted on 01/12/2012 10:02:32 PM PST by Red Steel
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Jim DeMint sold out. He can go straight to hell.


5 posted on 01/12/2012 10:03:39 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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Well it was a-ok when all that negativity was aimed at Newt. Newt waited for 3 weeks but mittens just kept on being nasty. You reap what you sow.

Plus, I don't appreciate the Pubbies trying to hide all this negative information about mittens actual RECORD on JOB CREATION which he himself put front and center as the main reason he was the best qualified.

Mittens is just being asked to defend his record. All the hyperbole about attacking capitalism is just an Alinsky tactic to shift the focus from his record.

Kennedy used this issue to beat him years ago, so he has had ample time to prepare his defense. I am still waiting to hear specific verifiable details to explain his record.

If he can't effectively combat this little criticism now, there is no way he can withstand what the Obama machine will throw at him later.

This issue alone makes him unelectable, but as we know there is soooo much more. GOP E must really not care if we beat Obama or not, if they continue to push mittens.

8 posted on 01/12/2012 10:25:12 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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I agree with Sarah Palin.

Obama is raising more re-election funds than all of the GOP candidates combined.

Its not the time time to just flip a coin and hope your horse finishes first in this race.

You find out what kind of stamina it has, or if its even a horse.


9 posted on 01/12/2012 10:35:17 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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Seems like the one now “wanting it to stop” is Mitt through his “fellers”.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 10:35:47 PM PST by X-spurt
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Seems like the one now “wanting it to stop” is Mitt through his “fellers”.


11 posted on 01/12/2012 10:36:02 PM PST by X-spurt
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Seems like the one now “wanting it to stop” is Mitt through his “fellers”.


12 posted on 01/12/2012 10:36:09 PM PST by X-spurt
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It’s unfortunate that Sarah Palin didn’t get into the race. She has more fight in her than all these candidates combined.


14 posted on 01/12/2012 10:45:46 PM PST by upsdriver (We Tea Partiers need Sarah Palin for president.)
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I understand Demints position being in the senate and trying to build a stronger conservative caucus and not agitate the leadership.I also understand that Sarah is right on the money and is free to do as she wishes.I wish her the very best of luck and success.


16 posted on 01/12/2012 11:00:19 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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DeMint may be the least corrupt among the members of the US Senate, but that is not saying much. It just grows on them.

The US Senate is the most consistently corrupted collection of putrifying treasonous slimeballs on the planet.

18 posted on 01/12/2012 11:18:12 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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I agree with Sarah Palin. The charges that Newt is making with his criticism of Romney’s association with Bain Capitol are a gift horse for him. It is a warning to the Romney team of what is coming. Romney will be hit with Axelrod’s attacks taken from the same area of discussion. Romney had better have his counter message ready when the attacks come.

The OWS have tried to set the stage for the kind of attack the DemonRATs have been building since the housing collapse. I don’t think the OWS effort has been successful. However it has planted a seed in the electorate’s mind. It has set the stage for the classic battle between Keynesian economics vs Hayekian economics. It is going to be class warfare and the rich and the Republican Party will be the scapegoat for all that has gone wrong for the middle class. I am sure they will use something similar to Bain Capitol and use it like a powder keg to blow up Romney’s candidacy if he becomes the nominee. The Bain Capitol activities and Romney’s association with it will be the center of focus for corporate greed and the evil of Hayekian economics. It will be their October Surprise. The DemonRATs are set to hang everything Bain Capitol represents around the Republican neck and it will sink everything we have worked for since Zer0 took office. We will be like the little woman who said, “We had to load up the U-Haul because we done lost our home.”

Rick Tyler, a former long-time aide to Mr. Gingrich who helped set up the super PAC Winning Our Future, comments about the criticism that Newt is anti-capitalist in his attacks against Romney:

“I’m a capitalist, I’m a conservative,” he said. “I’ve spent a lot of time defending free enterprise from a biblical perspective.”

“But Bain Capital,” he said, “did not fit the model of responsible corporate citizenship.” “If this is free enterprise, then conservatives should have nothing to do with it,” he said. “It is predatory paper-shuffling. Mitt Romney was engaged in the engineered destruction of free enterprise.”


21 posted on 01/12/2012 11:38:18 PM PST by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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Noticed once again Sara Palin on Fox News speaking unscripted. I never see “Ken Doll” on there from anywhere talking to anyone on Fox. Interesting that Clintons, Gore, Kerry and Zippy couldn’t do that before either. I guess scripted Smurfball questions would be too obvious.


22 posted on 01/12/2012 11:57:15 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Somehow I don’t see in the future ANY republican saying “I simply cannot support this candidate.” What we will hear is “This is the candidate we need to get obama out of the white house and put this country back on the right track”. And we will hear this from Palin, Bachman, all three Bushes, Perry, Newt, Santorum, Huntsman, Rush, Hannity, Christy, Laura, Greta, Ann Coulter, et al.

If one highly public person would say “I’ll vote for Romney the day someone holds my dead hand and pushed the button for me” he or she could jump in the race the day before the convention and win it all. But we won’t be seeing that. Even Joe the Plumber will be on board the GOP FAST TRAIN TO DEFEAT.


24 posted on 01/13/2012 1:59:38 AM PST by Terry Mross (AN)
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Funny how no one in the media has mentioned that Sarah Palin is not supporting Mitt Romney while her 2008 running mate jumped in immediately to give his endorsement. Sarah is definitely smarter than both McCain and DeMint.


26 posted on 01/13/2012 3:58:54 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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Vet each other but continue unrelenting attacks on Obama and Romney.


27 posted on 01/13/2012 4:01:53 AM PST by rintense
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DeMint has jumped in the toilet to drink in the
turd in the punchbowl = Mitt Romney.

DeMint is disgusting and will be ignored FOREVER.


28 posted on 01/13/2012 4:37:58 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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I agree with DeMint. The rats are sitting back while Gingrich destroys Romney. It’s really Gingrich they want to pit against obama. Once Gingrich is the nominee the rat super pacs will rip him apart before the first debate. I still think Perry has the record to beat obama.


30 posted on 01/13/2012 4:45:06 AM PST by jersey117
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I absolutely agree with Sarah. OWS was set up by the Dems to bring awareness to Wall St and greed, and I believe in anticipation of Obama running against Mitt. Bain will be portrayed by the Dems as greedy Wall St. and Mitt will not win the general election because of Bain. It doesn't matter how you define capitalism, it is a matter of how the Dems will define it.

The GOP was either too stupid and didn't vet Romney, or they are too stupid and don't want to face how Bain will be portrayed by Obama and his goons.

Sarah is correct in that this needs to be front and center, and Romney needs to provide answers. This is the only way we will know if Romney has a fighting chance in the general election.

Charles Kraut. also recently said something to the effect that Mitt better have a good response to Bain because Bain won't fly in the general election. One last thing, the GOP was stupid (duh) by trying to say Newt is attacking capitalism. Now what they have don't is to set up Obama to run against not only Mitt, but capitalism. Some of the stuff about Bain is not capitalism. Obama and socialism will beat Mitt and capitalism. We have got to let people know this isn't about Newt or Sarah attacking capitalism. This is about the GOP being too stupid to face they blew it. We can save our election by getting people to understand it isn't about capitalism, it is about the electability, or lack thereof, relative to Mitt. This is about an ad created in 1994 about Bain. It was never used against Mitt. Bain was gonna be Obama's trump card, and the GOP is trying to make Newt the fall guy for THEIR STUPIDITY. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdYx19temU8

35 posted on 01/13/2012 5:28:45 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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