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A Case For Rick Perry or Mitt Romney
Townhall ^ | January 4, 2012 | Jeff Carter

Posted on 01/04/2012 5:22:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Many point to the fact that different Republican candidates have captured our fancy over the past few months as a sign of weakness. In fact, it’s a sign of strength. Everyone is calling the field weak. Maybe it’s that there are a lot of facets to being President and actually we know that each and everyone of the candidates on the dais are better than the current occupant of the oval office. Republicans just want to let them macerate and pick the best one. The field may be stronger than the congnescenti think.

I haven’t picked a horse to back, but I know who I am a bit sour on for this run. Ace has laid out a compelling case for Perry. No matter who the Republicans pick, the Democratic media will accentuate his/her negative. No VP candidate will make up for that negative. Sarah Palin was picked to energize the type of conservative voter that has contributed to Rick Santorum’s recent rise in Iowa. Even her magnetic personality wasn’t enough to save McCain.

Ace writes, “the election will actually turn on… Jobs.”. I don’t disagree, this election is going to be all about economics vs Obamanomics. However, because of the American Idol format of the average person’s information gathering, one sound bite can make you look stupid.

At Red State, he shows some interesting facts about Perry,

-67 tax cuts for a total taxpayer savings of $14 billion.

-Fewer government employees per capita than when he took office.

-Perry has consistently scored a solid “B” rating from the Cato Institute on spending.

These are good stats. Romney can’t say that about his time in Massachusetts. Former Utah governor Jon Huntsman is the only other candidate with good economic stats. Huntsman blew it by insulting the Republican base and being positive on global warming. The other candidates were never executive office holders, so we don’t know how they lead. Obama had never served in an executive role either, anywhere. Leadership skill isn’t an arrow in the Obama quiver.

Again, I worry about debate gaffes, and Perry’s ability to respond to the lies Obama will spin. Perry isn’t a slow thinker. He is a considerate thinker. Some very great leaders that I have known in my time take a while to consider issues before they act on them. That’s often a very good quality. Being able to quip hyper quickly isn’t necessarily a sign of leadership even though at the time that person seems like the smartest person in the room.

The one knock on Perry is that his poor debate performances and periodic campaign trail gaffes will open him to the same vulnerabilities in office as President Bush: an inability to respond to criticism or explain his own policies. That’s a fair concern, but it should not be overstated. First, Perry’s reputation in Texas is very different from Bush’s. Bush was all about bipartisan bonhomie; Perry has left the state littered with the political corpses of people who stood in his way. Remember Jim Hightower, the left-wing talker who coined the phrase “the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos”? Perry ended his political career 21 years ago. Maybe Perry’s not Demosthenes, but he knows how build a team that gets his message out and go after his foes.

Second, debating skill takes on outsize importance in the primaries, when candidates have to stand out on a stage crowded with 7 or 8 people who all agree with each other 80-90% of the time. All Rick Perry needs to do is step onstage and everyone will know how he’s different from Barack Obama.

We saw what the media did to Sarah Palin. They were so afraid of her that they trashed her so badly that she is unelectable with the mainstream right now. In the next election cycle, who ever the candidate is should expect to be treated even more harshly. The race card will be played over and over. I can hear stories featuring people saying that you are a racist if you don’t back Obama.

This is going to be one of the less civil campaigns in American history. Civility went out the window a long time ago. The tell for you was when Obama called for a more civil tone at the Giffords service. Immediately, the far left went the other way. That’s all in the rear view mirror now. The only important thing to the hard lefties is re-election of Obama. They know the House is lost, and the Senate is probably lost. Desperate people do desperate things. The left is desperate.

Our economic and foreign policy environment calls for extremely thoughtful and decisive leadership. It requires a person that is deeply in touch with what they truly believe. Perry strikes me as that person. Romney has beliefs too-but Romney is more consensus and data driven. As long as he is taking advice from the right people, and looking at the data with the right frame of reference, Romney will be okay too.

Clearly, I am still ruminating about the candidates. The Florida primary will be a big key to me. It’s easy to talk to the first three states because there are a lot of cultural and geographic quirks that make each state easy to relate to. People in Des Moines think a lot like Iowa City people.

None of the states are very populated.

Florida is a different animal. Miami is a lot like New York, and the panhandle is more like Mississippi. Young people, old people. The economic crisis in real estate hit them hard.

Let’s see how the votes go there.


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To: Berlin_Freeper
Perry spent more than $300 per vote in Iowa; Santorum, only 73 cents

That's an interesting statistic. Now what? It means nothing, except that when the MSM roller coaster came around the track again, Santorum, the one nobody wanted to pick for their team (like his 18 point loss for his 3rd PA Senatorial term) was able to sit down for the MSM "surge" spin around the track -- keeping the conservative vote split and handing up a vulnerable conservative for Mitt to run against while sidelining Perry who is the only conservative threat to Romney and Obama.

21 posted on 01/04/2012 5:55:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gov. Perry has the “right” enemies

The only enemy Perry had was himself. He was horrible at the debates and said so many stupid things both during debates and after. Nobody went after him with anything but his own words. Most people didn’t waste their time like his few fans like yourself.


22 posted on 01/04/2012 5:57:52 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry spent more than $300 per vote in Iowa; Santorum, only 73 cents

lol. Perry tried to buy the election just like he has in Texas and it didn’t work. I just feel sorry for those people who sent their hard earned money to this idiot. Now he can no longer brag that he never lost an election. He was pummeled.


23 posted on 01/04/2012 6:01:08 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: napscoordinator

You seem inordinately concerned.


24 posted on 01/04/2012 6:10:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: napscoordinator
....Perry tried to buy the election just like he has in Texas and it didn’t work. ...

Gov Perry beat back RINO Kay Bailey Hutchison and the Bush-Rove Machine in their 2010 primary challenge to his third term. Then Perry went on to beat (heavily financed by trial lawyers) Democrat Bill White to win.

25 posted on 01/04/2012 6:41:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gov Perry beat back RINO Kay Bailey Hutchison and the Bush-Rove Machine in their 2010 primary challenge to his third term. Then Perry went on to beat (heavily financed by trial lawyers) Democrat Bill White to win.

KBH was a weak candidate. He spent loads of money to win. It is not illegal to spend money. Heck John Edwards tried to buy the Presidency too. Some guys just do that type of thing. It happens all the time so what Perry tried to do and failed is not abnormal.


26 posted on 01/04/2012 6:47:13 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: napscoordinator

Nice spinning naps, you must be dizzy.


27 posted on 01/04/2012 7:04:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

lol. I just reread the post. I guess I could have written it better. Anyway like I told some other Perry Supporters. It is in his hands and perhaps he will continue on to SC. Only he knows.


28 posted on 01/04/2012 7:12:17 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

At this point Rick Perry is totally irrelevant to this election cycle.


29 posted on 01/04/2012 7:13:18 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Always with the negative vibes CB. Always anti-Perry.

If Perry is so irrelevant, surely you should feel free to move along and spread your negativity elsewhere.


30 posted on 01/04/2012 7:17:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I like Rick Perry but this is just not his year. He’s going to likely drop out on Thurs so the contest will probably be Newt vs Mitt in the end. I have to admit I loved watching Rick stick it to Mitt in the debates.


31 posted on 01/04/2012 8:03:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
.....the contest will probably be Newt vs Mitt in the end.....

NEWT MITT

32 posted on 01/04/2012 8:12:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yep, used that big ol’e axe to cut off his own leg so all he can do now is limp back to Texas. His funding is basically dried up along with the rest of his campaign, an embarrassing run.


33 posted on 01/04/2012 8:13:46 AM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Pot meet kettle.


34 posted on 01/04/2012 8:14:52 AM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Berlin_Freeper

Well guess What? The one nobody wanted beat your illegal loving rube. And now he’s taking his boots and going home.


35 posted on 01/04/2012 8:18:35 AM PST by rintense
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To: napscoordinator

How do you feel about Santorum’s chances of getting the nomination and defeating Obama?


36 posted on 01/04/2012 8:20:53 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah, and he just got his butt stomped by a Liberal, a Kook, an adulterer and the guy nobody wanted.

But, wow, Perry’s the one true conservative in the race!!!


37 posted on 01/04/2012 8:23:45 AM PST by rintense
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To: CynicalBear
Today, I bet Perry is not irrelevant to Santorum. If Perry drops out, Santorum just had a great big block of votes dumped in his lap. Add in Bachmann's and Santorum is sitting pretty.

I wish I felt better about Santorum vs Obama. Frankly, it scares me.

38 posted on 01/04/2012 8:23:45 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

How do you feel about Santorum’s chances of getting the nomination and defeating Obama?

Great because there will be ZERO holding their noses for anybody. That is one reason why McCain lost last time because he was not conservative. Everyone worried about Santorum’s financial situation should not worry. He spent 21,000 dollars in Iowa TOTAL. Now talk about fiscal conservative. You can win a state with 21,000 dollars. That is incredible. Perry spent the most with 4.6 million and Romney was next with 1.5 million.


39 posted on 01/04/2012 8:28:11 AM PST by napscoordinator (President Santorum is our future! A miracle is happening before our eyes!)
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To: rintense

Perry needs to put these people out of their misery and drop out quickly. The longer he takes the more cruel it is.


40 posted on 01/04/2012 8:31:34 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Ron Paul is disgusting.)
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