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Herman Cain, Rick Perry at Michigan Debate: One Flies Above Controversy, the Other Flails Away
ABC News ^ | November 9, 2011 | Matthew Jaffe

Posted on 11/09/2011 8:56:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

ROCHESTER, Mich. – With under two months before the first votes are cast in the Republican presidential primary, the GOP candidates gathered for a debate in a state that has suffered gravely during the nation’s economic recession – but what stole the show were the varying fortunes of the two candidates that pose the biggest threat to Mitt Romney’s chances of securing the nomination: Herman Cain and Rick Perry.

While the former has surged in the polls and continues to enjoy support despite new allegations of sexual harassment, the latter has plunged in recent months, even falling outside the top three in polls. Those trends were on full display here at Oakland University as the crowd voiced their strong support for Cain despite the allegations against and sat silently - stunned - as Perry flailed away, unable to name the third federal agency that he said he would eliminate as president.

“It’s three agencies of government when I get there that are gone - Commerce, Education and the um, what’s the third one there?” Perry said. “Let’s see. Oh five – Commerce, Education and the um, um.”

“EPA?” suggested his rival, Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

“EPA, there you go,” replied Perry, before correcting himself.

“No sir,” he said, “we were talking about the agencies of government [that should be cut]. The EPA needs to be rebuilt.”

“But you can’t name the third one?” asked CNBC moderator John Harwood of Perry.

“The third agency of government I would do away with - the Education, the uh, the Commerce and let’s see, I can’t the third one,” Perry admitted. “I can’t.”

The cringe-worthy moment was so bad that the Texas governor then sighed and said simply, “Oops.”

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Michigan; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: brainfart; cain; debates; heartless; hermancain; michigan; oops; perry; rickperry
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Time to re-think the whole field?
1 posted on 11/09/2011 8:56:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

perry had a brain fart.


2 posted on 11/09/2011 8:57:45 PM PST by ken21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Investigator: Herman Cain innocent of sexual advances

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16002149/investigator-herman-cain-innocent-of-sexual-advances


3 posted on 11/09/2011 8:57:53 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The saddest thing is that no matter what the outcome of the election, people will cry “woulda, coulda, shoulda” that Perry was the best choice. He’s not even a good choice, folks.


4 posted on 11/09/2011 8:59:56 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t agree in the slightest, Cain is on fire, and he cannot be put out. Did you hear the crowd in Oakland, Oakland mind you, this is not an aberration, this is a lasting and monumental candidacy.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 9:04:28 PM PST by Carl from Marietta (Cain, there's a new sheriff in town.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Herman Cain’s response to Maria Bartiromo question about character: (short video)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/09/cain_gets_major_applause_at_debate_after_dismissing_harassment_claim.html


6 posted on 11/09/2011 9:18:38 PM PST by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in half a century.)
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To: ken21

“perry had a brain ...”

Are you sure? He might have a brain but his mouth is his greatest enemy.


7 posted on 11/09/2011 9:20:55 PM PST by sagar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, vet, it’s Herman or bust for me.


8 posted on 11/09/2011 9:37:35 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: federal__reserve

Perry will likely drop out before Iowa, sending the lion’s share of his 6-8% over to Cain — which will be the difference in Florida and padding his two wins in IA/SC.

Cain was PERFECT tonight, imho.


9 posted on 11/09/2011 9:39:10 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: ken21

Perry IS a brain fart...

meaning he totally underestimated Cain.

Also, underestimated Romney which has a far greater worry than what Perry ever THOUGHT Cain was.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 9:43:05 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Carl from Marietta
Cain is on fire, and he cannot be put out.

“Yet the righteous will hold to his way, And he who has clean hands will be stronger and stronger” (Job 17:9).

God keeps His promises.

11 posted on 11/09/2011 9:49:49 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: CainConservative

Hopefully, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum will be up there on the platform with him, doing the same thing.


12 posted on 11/09/2011 9:57:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: JDW11235

13 posted on 11/09/2011 10:00:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: autumnraine

Mr. Bain Capitol now claims China is a big threat and “not playing by the rules”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2jJSsncHQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bX2hkmE5zA

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/02/hunter-romney-should-denounce-bain-capitals-chinese-ties/

Took him long enough to get his head out of his backside.


14 posted on 11/09/2011 10:00:46 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If that post means what I think it does, YES!
15 posted on 11/09/2011 10:08:58 PM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to re-think the whole field? Not unless you were a Perry supporter.

Cain/Newt .. Newt/Cain .. 2012


16 posted on 11/09/2011 10:24:31 PM PST by Java4Jay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...new allegations...”?? Another dig by MSM. How about “recent”, or just “allegations”.

At least they admitted that the crowd supported Cain.


17 posted on 11/09/2011 10:59:13 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes! Although I never thought that Sarah Palin would run (except I considered the possibility of her having a third party candidacy if Romney wins the Republican nomination—though she has said she won’t), I do miss her, and her plain manner of speech. I understand her need to put her family first, she still has little ones still at home, that will demand her attention for some time, and motherhood is a serious obligation, and I support her in her decision. It’s a shame that the Presidential field is as limited as it is. I wonder where all the statesmen have gone. Surely there are some, somewhere in the 150 million+ (or however many it is) (wo)/men of age to run. I suppose it is because of the way people are apathetic and only pay attention to the MSM. But still, there have got to me more than the 8 people, currently running, who could do the job.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 11:06:28 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Always, wish it could have gone the other way.


19 posted on 11/09/2011 11:29:46 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: justsaynomore

Do you have a link to the entire debate? I’d like to watch it. Am in Korea. Hard to access things.


20 posted on 11/09/2011 11:39:43 PM PST by goodn'mad
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