Posted on 10/19/2011 9:06:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Rick Perry’s awkward courtship of the Republican party reminds me a lot of the jig Sarah Palin performed right after the 2008 campaign. Unsure of whether to go the establishment route, Palin made overtures inside the Beltway before finally breaking with them and going with Tea Party. So, I thought it might be instructive to look back at some of the lessons Rick Perry can take from Palin’s base whispering.
1) Man up. Perry shouldn’t apologize for his shortcomings in debates or speeches. And his wife shouldn’t cry at a public speech about how brutalized he’s been by his rivals – can you imagine Todd doing that? It’s only been six weeks. This will only get worse next year if he’s the nominee. Palin proved you could whine about the national press all you like, but you can’t complain about your rivals or wallow in self-pity over your own performance. When she did — she once used the term “blood libel” — she got savaged. The same is true for Perry.
2) Energy policy isn’t a complete platform on its own. Just about the only national issue Palin was comfortable talking about in 2008 and 2009 was domestic energy. Rick Perry is sounding just like her with his recent announcement of a jobs plan that focused almost exclusively on that topic. Energy may be important to Alaska and Texas, but in early primary states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, it is no where near the top issue for voters. Palin diversified – health reform, Libya, all those op-eds in the Wall Street Journal on the economy....
(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...
There is no way Herman Cain went pro-choice. He’s stated too many times and way too recently that life begins at conception and that the first right our creator bestowed on us, as stated in the Declaration of Independence, is the right to life.
In fact, just within the last week when the media asked about it, he stated he does not believe in abortion for any reason not for rape nor for incest. If there is a choice between the life of the baby and the life of the mother, he said the family would have to make that decision not govt.
He’s made both of those statements within the last few weeks so whoever told you he’s gone pro-choice is working dirty tricks for the enemy or deceived themselves. Herman Cain is a rock solid conservative. Would you go pro-choice? I wouldn’t. Neither did he.
Gazing by I recall “Something for the Family and the mother to Decide”. I failed to read it and now it’s pulled I guess.
You are correct on what Herman Cain has said.
But did you get to read the pulled thread? Is that what the thread said also?
No, I did not see it. But I would not be surprised to see someone spread lies about what he believes in order to attempt to damage his campaign. Just today I had a run in with a Mittbot who was pretending to be a Cain supporter. He was pretending to lament over something from the debate saying it would damage Cain. But in a previous post he stated only Romney could win because he said Perry was stupid and Cain would make a serious mistake in the debate.
I hope conservatives realize what they are up against. We will have to use all of our common sense because both RINOs and democrats will use any means necessary to keep a conservative from taking office. They don’t care what lies they have to tell to accomplish their goal.
..... “ But I would not be surprised to see someone spread lies about what he believes in order to attempt to damage his campaign. .....”
Absolutely. We think it is bad now—wait ‘til we have our nominee up against the really dark side. One good thing, they won’t ever again have the room to role us as in the past, with 24/7 internet and news and conservative blogs and even granny is internet savy enough to get the drift these days. At least Romney is stuck for the time being in mid 20’s, thanks to Cain. Romney has so many GOP enemies from the last campaign that he is quite bound to seek out liberal pals and continue to ignore the Tea Party entirely.
May God spare us all from another bad president.
Check this out. hotair.com. That was where I passed over the title I mentioned up thread—turns out it wasn’t on FR at all, where I saw it. Cain may have stepped in this one. Whatdaya think? I know the columnist is trying to cause trouble but it was on TV also, Piers Morgan. Not specific to state’s rights on abortion either. I dunno.
He said life begins at conception and abortion under no circumstances and then was asked about rape and incest and talked about families, not government making decisions.
Cain: My abortion position not 'directive' to the nation
This is just what happens when a real person is running, responding like a real person and not a pre-programmed, focus-group-tested automaton.
“After Mr. Cain went off the reservation on abortion, I may have to take a second look at the Texas governor. There’s no one else.....”
I missed that....Exactly what did he say about abortion?....I was surprised to learn of his church which gives support to Obama and ignores the fact he is for abortion....
Is La Raza Rick on the reservation? I don’t think his position is any stronger than Herman Cain’s.
Cain is just as anti-abortion as he ever was.
Here is the text of the interview in qeustion. As you can see, the subject of the question that has got people hot is “should the goverment force a rape viticm to RAISE the child.” Typical gotcha lefty question, as it assumes only two choices (abortion or raising child) without considering adoption.
MORGAN: Abortion. What’s your view of abortion?
CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here’s why —
MORGAN: No circumstances?
CAIN: No circumstances.
MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates — some of them qualify that.
CAIN: They qualify but —
MORGAN: Rape and incest.
CAIN: Rape and incest.
Cain is specifically rejecting exceptions to anti-abortion laws that other candidates have put forth allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest.
So Morgan asks whether Cain would want his daughters to RAISE a child born out of rape and incest as their own. Cain replies that’s a decision for the family to make. That’s where the people who are trying to bring Cain down leap into action, making it seem like the question was whether Cain would want them to carry the baby to term:
MORGAN: Are you honestly saying — again, it’s a tricky question, I know.
CAIN: Ask the tricky question.
MORGAN: But you’ve had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?
CAIN: You’re mixing two things here, Piers?
MORGAN: Why?
CAIN: You’re mixing —
MORGAN: That’s what it comes down to.
CAIN: No, it comes down to it’s not the government’s role or anybody else’s role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.
See, out of context it seems like Cain is saying that government shouldn’t make the decision to keep or abort the baby. But that’s NOT what Morgan asked. It seems that may be what Morgan MEANT to ask, but Cain corrects him that he’s mixing up issues.
The “decision” in the second question is about who should raise the child.
It’s also worth finding and watching the actual video. Morgan cuts off Cain so many times (in this section and the section on gays) that Cain never really gets to complete his points. Almost all of Cain’s responses in the transcript are really fragments of the sentence he was starting to say before Morgan cut him off.
Cain is just as pro-life as he ever was.
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