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If they'd picketed at my dad's funeral, they wouldn't have been able to make it to the courthouse.
1 posted on 03/02/2011 3:01:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once again; the title of the article has little to do with what she said...


2 posted on 03/02/2011 3:02:27 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah, the keen legal mind of Sarah Palin.

Too bad Roberts, Scalia and Thomas disagree.

As do I. What they’re doing is protected speech, as disgusting as it is.


3 posted on 03/02/2011 3:06:36 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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The Supreme Court could have ruled against the Westboro Baptist Church on the basis of the "Fighting Words Doctrine".

"There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality." – Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942

Spewing hatred towards the deceased at a funeral in front of his family qualifies as "Fighting Words" if anything does.

Maybe it will take an actual physical fight for the Supreme Court to realize this.

5 posted on 03/02/2011 3:10:25 PM PST by Polybius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I somewhat agree with the decision. I abhor the WBC idiots. But, if they had cut their rights, who’s to say the left would at some point use the restriction of the 1st amendment against the tea partiers?

There are other ways to deal with WBC.


8 posted on 03/02/2011 3:15:27 PM PST by Reagan69 (I went to a shooting-victims' memorial service and all I got was a lousy T-shirt !)
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Justice Samual Alito was the only justice to submit a dissenting opinion, saying that the First Amendment does not protect those who launch “vicious verbal attacks that make no contribution to public debate” during “a time of intense emotional sensitivity.”
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Unfortunately this argument would outlaw The Daily Kos.

Although that might sound like a good idea it is one that, in the wrong hands, could do the same to FR. The 1st Amendment isn’t perfect but it is better than any alternative I can think of. It is bitter sweet for sure and sometimes you just have accept the fact that it allows people to legally be jerks. That’s the price we pay for what passes these days as freedom of speech.


11 posted on 03/02/2011 3:24:33 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She did not say their speech should not be protected. The headline is a lie.


19 posted on 03/02/2011 3:35:42 PM PST by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal, if an idea is a complete & utter disaster, it's only because there's not enough of it.)
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I hear you. Attended a funeral at the family’s request where these idiots showed up. 220 American flag holding pissed bikers and veterans. The idiots (3 women and a boy) did not hang around very long. The family never saw or heard the idiots..


20 posted on 03/02/2011 3:35:42 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LYING title -what she actually said.

After dailycaller’s Tucker Carlson MILF remark about Palin the other day, this is surprising???


26 posted on 03/02/2011 3:41:39 PM PST by Freddd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have to disagree with Sarah on this. However offensive the speech is, the government has no right to prohibit somebody from speaking it.

On the other hand, neither should the government be under any obligation to provide security to the Westboro idiots. See how vocal they are when a thousand pissed-off funeral attendees converge upon them.

28 posted on 03/02/2011 3:43:45 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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Justice Samual Alito was the only justice to submit a dissenting opinion, saying that the First Amendment does not protect those who launch “vicious verbal attacks that make no contribution to public debate” during “a time of intense emotional sensitivity.”

You could drive a semi through the loophole in free-speech rights that this sort of reasoning would create. Speech requires protection precisely when people don't like it. I think this picketing group is beyond contempt, but what they're doing is legal. Alito's judgment in this makes me more than a little nervous about what he's going to do in future "hate-speech" cases.
40 posted on 03/02/2011 4:03:31 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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“Common sense & decency absent as wacko ‘church’ allowed hate msgs spewed @ soldiers’ funerals but we can’t invoke God’s name in public square,” Palin said via her Twitter

Dang. What she said is quoted in the article, yet, there are posters here that allowed themselves to be swayed by the misleading headline.
43 posted on 03/02/2011 4:06:02 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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Sarah didn’t necessarily say it wasn’t the right decision, she just can’t understand why we can’t mention God in some places. I agree with her.


52 posted on 03/02/2011 4:39:27 PM PST by Reagan69 (I went to a shooting-victims' memorial service and all I got was a lousy T-shirt !)
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Palin: First Amendment should not protect protestors at military funerals

The title lies. Why not add a comment to the title saying that?

58 posted on 03/02/2011 5:32:01 PM PST by FreeReign
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“What do you mean it’s not 1st Amendment protected to counter their picketing with a shotgun full of slugs?”


78 posted on 03/06/2011 9:50:13 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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